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Author Topic: Zuk Based JHF/Goatbuilt Buggy  (Read 5895 times)
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« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2018, 05:37:13 PM »

Not gonna lie, I'm disappointed in the drivetrain change but I'll be following the build regardless.
I really liked the idea of it too. I was told the TH180 didn't play well with boost, to go 4 speed. Maybe the 3 speed would fit better? Basically to run it, I would have wasted a lot of time and money. Jesse told me a few days ago when I decided to switch, he had to lengthen the subframe for the Toyota drivetrain to fit. So all the subframe, skids and interior panels I bought wouldn't work. If you bought just the basic chassis and did your own interior it wouldn't be as big of a deal. Hacking up $700-800 worth of stuff to make it fit wasn't something I looked forward to. The whole point in the kit, is to have a professional looking buggy built in a hackjobs garage. Also wasn't really excited about the wiring harness stuff, and being a guinea pig. I like simple and trouble free installs. Crazy I bought the new drivetrain for less than the Zuk stuff cost me. Everything should be picked up tomorrow, so the only expense is fuel system, radiator, and mounts that I would have to incur anyways.
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« Reply #76 on: August 05, 2018, 08:45:01 AM »

I like it.

At this point in time building a rig with anything other than an "LS" motor is just trying to be different for the sake of being different (and will usually cost more money and not package as well)

I have an infatuation with the 2.9 4cyl/3.7 5cyl "Atlas" series engines that came in the Colorado, but they just don't make sense to use in a build versus a V8 of the same era...
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« Reply #77 on: August 05, 2018, 04:10:36 PM »

I like it.

At this point in time building a rig with anything other than an "LS" motor is just trying to be different for the sake of being different (and will usually cost more money and not package as well)

I have an infatuation with the 2.9 4cyl/3.7 5cyl "Atlas" series engines that came in the Colorado, but they just don't make sense to use in a build versus a V8 of the same era...

I was all over the LV3 until I spoke with AJ. Just seems like a lot of work just to be different. Once the aftermarket support is there for things like steering, oil pan, etc it should be a go to for lighter rigs. So I hit up my buddy about another Series III SC3800, and was gonna grab it until I saw the 99 Vette motor for the same price. Kinda made up my mind to go to a lighter motor with more power for the same basic price. Jesse built the chassis for an LS, so most of the work is already figured out and documented.
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« Reply #78 on: August 06, 2018, 06:21:28 AM »

Is the 99 Vette motor all aluminum?
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« Reply #79 on: August 06, 2018, 06:27:57 AM »

Is the 99 Vette motor all aluminum?


yes, all the LS motors that came in cars are aluminum block
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« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2018, 06:28:06 AM »

Is the 99 Vette motor all aluminum?


All LS motors found in Vettes are AL. So yes.

@sleepsontoilet : I think you make a great choice with this motor !
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« Reply #81 on: August 06, 2018, 05:07:15 PM »

All LS motors found in Vettes are AL. So yes.

@sleepsontoilet : I think you make a great choice with this motor !

Me too, shipped the doubler off to their new owners today, and trans was picked up Sunday. 1.6 should be picked up Thursday. It paid for the LS1/4l60 and left a little pile for a used Atlas. I think I found one, a local guy is swapping his the 4.3 gears into his 3.0 case and I'll grab the 3.0 when he's done.
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« Reply #82 on: August 07, 2018, 07:35:05 AM »

Good deal !

With the extra HP/TQ do you still feel good about going with the 1550 stock shafts ?
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« Reply #83 on: August 07, 2018, 07:07:42 PM »

Good deal !

With the extra HP/TQ do you still feel good about going with the 1550 stock shafts ?

TIm Jackson has a nice turbo LS in the postal Jeep Crawl did a shoot on, and he runs them in it. I figure I'll try them out. Otherwise I'm looking at 7K plus to run the Overson Rockwell or RCV Rockwell shafts F&R.
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« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2018, 06:29:30 AM »

TIm Jackson has a nice turbo LS in the postal Jeep Crawl did a shoot on, and he runs them in it. I figure I'll try them out. Otherwise I'm looking at 7K plus to run the Overson Rockwell or RCV Rockwell shafts F&R.

I have followed Tim for a long time now. He does really cool stuff.
I'm intrigued by the shafts life length. I'll follow closely.

The cost of the RCV stuff is why I went with a non-steer rear axle in mine. At least for now...
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« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2018, 06:47:58 PM »

I have followed Tim for a long time now. He does really cool stuff.
I'm intrigued by the shafts life length. I'll follow closely.

The cost of the RCV stuff is why I went with a non-steer rear axle in mine. At least for now...

I have the stock 1480 shafts now and plan to have them for spares. I think the 1550 stuff will be fine. I don't know of much of an upgrade between the $320 set of stock 1550s, and the Baller $3500 shafts. That's a lot of coin for both ends, and the Overson stuff has no warranty. The great thing is they are all stock length, and should be able to overnight a set, or grab a spare set from any junkyard if needed to make a weekend trip. Way better than a custom one off shaft with no warranty on my portal crawler. between cutting, machine work, and heat treating they are never an overnight thing. I've grabbed several sets of complete 05 SD local for $400, so I'm sure just the shafts wouldn't be too much. I'm actually planning to grab one more, or at least unit bearings and shafts to have as a spare set for long trips like MOAB. I'm gonna do my best to leave the LS1 stock and be sensible when bound. I think between the 6.50 gears, and the 4.3 Atlas I just grabbed, I should have enough gearing to not need to beat on it too bad.
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« Reply #86 on: August 08, 2018, 07:40:13 PM »

Blows my mind that ouverson won't warrant his shafts.
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« Reply #87 on: August 08, 2018, 10:58:59 PM »

Blows my mind that ouverson won't warrant his shafts.

That's what I was told when I called, as the shafts aren't on the website
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« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2018, 05:18:34 AM »

I have the stock 1480 shafts now and plan to have them for spares. I think the 1550 stuff will be fine. I don't know of much of an upgrade between the $320 set of stock 1550s, and the Baller $3500 shafts. That's a lot of coin for both ends, and the Overson stuff has no warranty. The great thing is they are all stock length, and should be able to overnight a set, or grab a spare set from any junkyard if needed to make a weekend trip. Way better than a custom one off shaft with no warranty on my portal crawler. between cutting, machine work, and heat treating they are never an overnight thing. I've grabbed several sets of complete 05 SD local for $400, so I'm sure just the shafts wouldn't be too much. I'm actually planning to grab one more, or at least unit bearings and shafts to have as a spare set for long trips like MOAB. I'm gonna do my best to leave the LS1 stock and be sensible when bound. I think between the 6.50 gears, and the 4.3 Atlas I just grabbed, I should have enough gearing to not need to beat on it too bad.

Makes total sense.
Hence why I'm an RCV fan boy and will only run their shafts when I'm in the position to do so.
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« Reply #89 on: August 10, 2018, 06:05:02 AM »

Blows my mind that ouverson won't warrant his shafts.

It blows my mind that these MFG's offer a warranty. Literally, we are taking these shafts throwing them in an axle strapping 40-43" tires on it and LS power (for the most part) under the hood.

IMO, if I'm a mfg. I'd offer, to the original purchaser, material cost replacement set once, maybe twice, depending on the situation. After that, time to pony up. You either have an issue, need to learn how to drive or if you're racing, well... that's racing.
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« Reply #90 on: August 10, 2018, 05:39:55 PM »

It blows my mind that these MFG's offer a warranty. Literally, we are taking these shafts throwing them in an axle strapping 40-43" tires on it and LS power (for the most part) under the hood.

IMO, if I'm a mfg. I'd offer, to the original purchaser, material cost replacement set once, maybe twice, depending on the situation. After that, time to pony up. You either have an issue, need to learn how to drive or if you're racing, well... that's racing.


What kind of profit margin do think there is on a set of big bell 40 spline rcvs?
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« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2018, 05:54:15 PM »

It blows my mind that these MFG's offer a warranty. Literally, we are taking these shafts throwing them in an axle strapping 40-43" tires on it and LS power (for the most part) under the hood.

IMO, if I'm a mfg. I'd offer, to the original purchaser, material cost replacement set once, maybe twice, depending on the situation. After that, time to pony up. You either have an issue, need to learn how to drive or if you're racing, well... that's racing.
Good thing I run 39s

The reason they are able to sell their shafts for so much money is cause of the warranty and they honor it.  Also having a warranty on axle shafts is pretty standard throughout the industry. Hell, even Yukon does. If you start manufacturing shafts and selling them no one is going to buy yours cause the warranty sucks. 

For what it's worth I have bought a set of RCVs for a 60 and I will be buying a big set in the some we hat near future. I considered calling Branik and Ouverson. I won't consider Ouverson now if it's true that they don't warranty custom shafts
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« Reply #92 on: August 13, 2018, 04:20:59 AM »

Got some help in the garage this weekend, a good friend cleaned up my knuckles to prep for the high steer, and scored a used Atlas 4.3 that’s been wheeling longer than I have.




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« Reply #93 on: August 13, 2018, 04:21:36 AM »

No $500 adapter needed, just a little trimming.

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« Reply #94 on: August 13, 2018, 05:21:27 AM »

No $500 adapter needed, just a little trimming.

Haha...well there you go keeping with the lightweight and simple theme...
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« Reply #95 on: August 13, 2018, 05:28:17 AM »

Haha...well there you go keeping with the lightweight and simple theme...

Haha, weight is weight. And I'm not trimming back on the Tacos!
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« Reply #96 on: August 13, 2018, 08:54:00 AM »

Looking like a great combination of parts now.  For the price of the 1550 oem shafts it is hard not to notice them. Hell you could break several before upgrading for the $$. I'm interested in how they hold up. I am considering having a stock 1550 shaft shortened.
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