Gofundme for border wall.

onepieceatatime · Dec 21, 2018

End welfare, minimum wage, and the war on drugs and we won't have immigration problems. Basically get rid of all the big government socialist bullshit. Everyone acted so afraid of socialism and big goverbment when Obama was in office even though we've had that **** for years and now they want Trump to build a wall to protect. When immigrants came here in the early 1900s before we started adopting big government **** we didn't really have an immigration problem. People came over and worked their way up from nothing and built this country.

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Zjman · Dec 21, 2018

onepieceatatime said:
End welfare, minimum wage, and the war on drugs and we won't have immigration problems. Basically get rid of all the big government socialist bullshit. Everyone acted so afraid of socialism and big goverbment when Obama was in office even though we've had that **** for years and now they want Trump to build a wall to protect. When immigrants came here in the early 1900s before we started adopting big government **** we didn't really have an immigration problem. People came over and worked their way up from nothing and built this country.

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Gospel son. Testify !!!!!!!

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money_pit_yj · Dec 21, 2018

There legitimate cases where people need assistance. I am all for food stamps and welfare as a temporary solution to get back on your feet. The problem is we have created a class of people who know nothing but living on assistance. If the check gets low, have another baby, wash rinse repeat and then the next generation does the same thing. Sure you can cut welfare but what do you do with the Millions who have no idea how to provide for themselves? That's the hard part cause there are very few people who want to go teach a bunch of poor folks how to be productive. Illegals are getting the same way so we need to lock down the border. 15 years ago the best labor you could find was a middle aged man named Jose who worked for cash and had no papers. It is hard to find that now. I'm not sure what the answer is but it is a balance of two extreme views.

onepieceatatime · Dec 21, 2018

You can take care of poor people who need help without going through the government. Doing private charity as opposed to socialized charity would be much more efficient as it could be ran by smaller groups who would be much more accountable for the money than big government is. Look how successful Gofundme and other crowd funding sites are. Sure we can't just cut all government welfare off right away at this point in time, we'll have to wean it off but we're not going that direction yet and don't show any sign of it.

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poolman · Dec 21, 2018

15 years ago the best labor you could find was a middle aged man named Jose who worked for cash and had no papers. It is hard to find that now. I'm not sure what the answer is but it is a balance of two extreme views.
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I have worked some "Jose's " I haven't since 2016. But I know people that do. The difference is 15 years ago they would work for $12 an hour and now they want $20-$25. They know the that every white man that wants to work is already working. The rest are mailbox watchers.

LightBnDr · Dec 21, 2018

I've found recently while building my home, that these guys come in and work their booty off! They work fast and efficient like I do, we just can't communicate very well. I end up paying a white guy who never shows up on my job site who scrapes off the top. This increasing my cost. Yet I'm here everyday working with these guys.

They honestly don't make a very high wage. So the only way to make a "decent" amount is by volume. Which is why they work so fast. Quality suffers but the market is driving this. Fat Americans don't want quality. They want cheap and fast. Then bitch about immigration.

I had only one full white crew come to do my siding. They took 2.5 weeks but did a phenomenal job from a quality perspective, but I paid for that.

Now I have a white crew working as I type this. They are an absolute joke. They show up at 930am, hit the porta potty 8 times, have a pack smokes, setup their radio, then they break for lunch. Then leave at 5 like they got somewhere to be.

I'm about ready to tell em not to come back. They suck.

Point being, our culture and market has driven this type of working behavior. A wall ain't gonna fix anything. Trump doesn't want a wall.

He helped build the caravan on its way here. Those companies that are gonna be forced to move here to manufacture need people who work and for CHEAP! We are stupid to think Americans are prepared to take those jobs. Trump knows that.

I sure have learned a lot about people while working along side these guys. It's honestly been white crews that make me feel uneasy to leave them alone on my job site.

Ironic. Carry on. Lol

BUG-E J · Dec 21, 2018

Did you just call me fat!

onepieceatatime · Dec 21, 2018

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LightBnDr said:
I've found recently while building my home, that these guys come in and work their booty off! They work fast and efficient like I do, we just can't communicate very well. I end up paying a white guy who never shows up on my job site who scrapes off the top. This increasing my cost. Yet I'm here everyday working with these guys.

They honestly don't make a very high wage. So the only way to make a "decent" amount is by volume. Which is why they work so fast. Quality suffers but the market is driving this. Fat Americans don't want quality. They want cheap and fast. Then bitch about immigration.

I had only one full white crew come to do my siding. They took 2.5 weeks but did a phenomenal job from a quality perspective, but I paid for that.

Now I have a white crew working as I type this. They are an absolute joke. They show up at 930am, hit the porta potty 8 times, have a pack smokes, setup their radio, then they break for lunch. Then leave at 5 like they got somewhere to be.

I'm about ready to tell em not to come back. They suck.

Point being, our culture and market has driven this type of working behavior. A wall ain't gonna fix anything. Trump doesn't want a wall.

He helped build the caravan on its way here. Those companies that are gonna be forced to move here to manufacture need people who work and for CHEAP! We are stupid to think Americans are prepared to take those jobs. Trump knows that.

I sure have learned a lot about people while working along side these guys. It's honestly been white crews that make me feel uneasy to leave them alone on my job site.

Ironic. Carry on. Lol

Google makes a translation app that works pretty good. Been wanting to use it at work because I see a lot of Mexicans on jobsites but they usually send the one over who speaks English when I get there. If you start talking to them they're usually real nice and pretty ****ing funny. They love making fun of each other.

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Bebop · Dec 21, 2018

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onepieceatatime said:
If you start talking to them they're usually real nice and pretty ****ing funny.

That's valid for any different culture that meets another one. Break the ice and usually good things come out of it.

onepieceatatime · Dec 21, 2018

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Bebop said:
That's valid for any different culture that meets another one. Break the ice and usually good things come out of it.

Been meaning to start a thread to ask you what your people been up to across the pond! You been wearing your yellow vest?

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Beerj · Dec 22, 2018

I'm really thinking I need to start a gofundme involving the wall. Windows for the wall? Paint for the wall? Guard monkeys? Seems like an easy way to walk away with a couple hundo grand without any realistic expectations of delivering.

LightBnDr · Dec 23, 2018

BUG-E J said:
Did you just call me fat!

Lol. As I typed it I knew it would be misunderstood.

I was referencing more of the American culture, for the most part I love but that we are wasteful and greedy annnnnd we have a huge problem with blown out toilet seats in all public restrooms