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b.boyd said:
Yes you can use them on heavier rigs. They don't work as good particularly if you don't have at least half the shaft showing in respect to the older ST version. The STX version works better in terms of handling in the same scenario because of a redesign of the tube system that circulates the oil during travel.

Once you hit 6 k even the manual SUGGESTS running more than one strut per corner if the vehicle has poor handling charcteristics.

I have had Mark Jensen the owner of ORI, at my home for a weekend. We talked extensively about them and tuned on mine. Including him making me the first pair of remote piggy back reservoirs to help the situation on my Jeep. To further explain, when less than half of the shaft is showing there is less nitrogen that you are riding on when the strut is compressing before the strut hits the "oil" stage of compression. As a result, the vehicle will ride rough because it moves right through the nitrogen sitting on top of the oil and hits the oil which result in a hard ride. More nitrogen on top of the oil means softer ride, less rougher ride. This is made worse with a heavy vehicle because you have to run high upper chamber pressures to get your ride height corect. Running only 40-45 lbs in my bottom chambers, almost the bare minimum, I still have to hit 300 lbs or over in my front upper chambers to get the correct ride height on my Jeep. Since the bottom chamber controls stability you might be inclined to charge it higher. When this is done the upper chamber will have to be increased exponentially even more. In fact, if I charge the lower chamber to 80-90 lbs then my upper chamber requires pressure in excess of 400 lbs to get ride height. Thankfully, making tuning changes with the pressures is as easy as letting nitrogen out versus having to switch springs like a coilover.

The piggy back reservoir, at least in my case of a heavy vehicle with the bare minimum of shaft showing, attempts to provide additional nitrogen in the upper chamber to make the ride softer. As there is an increase in volume of nitrogen within upper chamber of the strut, but not necessarily an increase in pressure which makes the situation worse.

So it would not be a surprise that what you saw was a vehicle that looked very stable. My Jeep, 5700 lbs, rides very stable. But, that is the problem. It is to stable because I have right at the bare minimum of allowable shaft exposed. Thus, it rides rough particularly on slow stuff. Going fast is better as the strut goes through the nitrogen stage of dampening quickly into the oil stage cushioning the hard hits better.

I would agree with this with 1 minor exception. Its not all "heavy" vehicles but vehicles with higher sprung weight & short amounts of up travel.

These are really designed for half up & half down. They can be built with a different chamber for those that want less shaft showing.
 
I have been running them since 2007, I love them and think they are the perfect set up for a trail rig. I have never had an issue with mine. A lot of rigs I wheel with run them. They are very easy to tune and extremely stable off camber, I wouldn't run anything else. Just my 02.
 
kmcminn said:
I have never seen any that didn't wheel hop. My thing is if they were all that, why don't more people run them?

Buddy runs these on his one ton 1500 Silverado. He loves the ORI's and make it ride totally different than his old shocks did. He talked with blacksheep10 and ordered through him and been highly satisfied. Just like everything else shock and suspension wise, get the ORI's tuned and be good to go.

My understanding(limited) is that the racer type doesn't care for the struts due to some fade issues with KOH type racing. These were on the older setups, but could still be a plausible reason for less people using them.
 
customcj7 said:
Which ones did you get? Mind if I ask how much you paid for them?
sorry about that brotha.. i have 16" front and 14" rear.. looked forever online and everyone had a stupid long wait.. finally found a lil shop that had some... after shipping the were around 2600 i believe. I honestly cant imagine not being able to adjust how and when i want.. i love them.. took a good bit of tinkering to get them dialed in and figured out.. but now its a breeze.. i cant imagine anyone having anything bad to say about them.. i have the stx version. atleast i think thats what they are called.. its late and im out of it,, thumb.gif a pic of my rig, checkin for clearence issues,,
 

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I got 20 inch struts on my bouncer it's not done yet but I'm anxious to see how they do in srrs,if they suck ill have 20 for sale ;D
 
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