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we live in a representative republic...if you want change, vote

that weighs 4500 lbs with mud tires.....but it isn't damage..... The Jeep should be ready to go soon Mark

It isn't just Bob.....there are others on this board that I like to call environmentalists with a Jeep (insert Toyota if it applys)

Sounds like a bad trail alignment to me :stirpot: This is why the club I belong to had to build a trail on rock, not mud :cool: There is 2 sides to that coin also, was the trail built for our enjoyment? Were there any animals killed, did any babies cry....:corn: I am not that guy that does that...

yeah...tread lightly with a 4500 lbs 4x4 truck on mud tires :awesomework: what were they thinkin

fixed it

We could speak their language..... a gravel bike paths carbon foot print: crusher plant operation, trucking, equipment on sight, fabric mills making landscape fabric Jeep trail carbon foot print: chainsaw, sweat, carbon monoxide (exhaling from sweaty wheeler dudes building trail)

Siding with the greenis and agreeing that our environmental impact is horrible will get you no where. I like to call it acceptable level of impact. Now I don't mean wetland impact, salmon impact but a couple ruts in the woods is just what happens when you drive there DUH and is less impact then...

is anyone going to vote at the next election?

more proof to never wheel alone...or winch and lockers

my hummer beadlocks say for government use only :haha: glad I have a DOD sticker on my Jeep...

not much blue DNA left is there?

sarcasm...do you speak it?

dood....I HATE mud and drive around puddles....I like rocks and that is with an old tub :awesomework:

have them write that on your ticket....when they add all the trees that you rubbed on and silt you caused to flow into some salmon stream (where there has not been a fish in 800 years) My family was here and fought that damn king also, kinda cool eh

they make every damn fast food place be handicaped accesible but not the forest....My Jeep serves that purpose

I understand all this BUT there is still all those pesky rules our elected officials put into place...who are we to ignore the law....

you mean it isn't an entitlement?

it is sad when we have to go back to reality though.....public lands have rules