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72" wide width restriction at Evans Creek?
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<blockquote data-quote="Digger 5" data-source="post: 1362192" data-attributes="member: 16808"><p>This whole conversation is just a cluster ....</p><p></p><p>No matter what the rule, someone will bitch. Times have changed and that is really the issue. Use of the trails has grown to the point of overuse. Back in the day, the areas we're discussing were inaccessible by full size rigs and that kept the traffic down. As the basic Jeep (TJ) got larger it forced its way into the trails and they got wider. Not harder, just wider. If anything, most trails got easier as they got wider. Add to that the huge increase in SUV type vehicles and in a rather short period of time any idiot with 4 wheel drive thinks they should be able to take any rig on any trail. Nevermind that the trails were built by and for smaller rigs.</p><p></p><p>Many, if not most of us, have built our rigs for the trail. If you choose to build some huge monster don't expect everyone to welcome it on the trails. Some of us like challenges and people now seem to overbuild so any challenge is now gone. Of course many of those same people bitch because now nothing is hard enough for them.</p><p></p><p>I would bet that if we had self policed ourselves and built rigs that were under..say 80", much of the pressure from the USFS and DNR would be minimized. </p><p></p><p>As a wheeling community, we've created these problems with the various agencies. If we can't, as a group, agree on some REASONABLE requirements, these requirements will be chosen for us. It's all about 'me'. "I'll agree to anything that doesn't require me to change". That attitude effects every decision made about ANYTHING. I'm willing to bet that if others (the agencies) choose the requirements, even fewer of us will be happy.</p><p></p><p>Here is how I see this playing out- The agencies will create new requirements that will keep many of us off the trail. Some will bitch and sell their rigs, others will modify their rigs and yet others, those already meeting the requirements, will carry on as if nothing has happened. Those of us that choose to meet these requirements will find the trails less crowded and probably under less polical pressure. We'll know and understand the requirements and self police ourselves to be sure that we can continue to enjoy our hobby. Which group will you be in?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Digger 5, post: 1362192, member: 16808"] This whole conversation is just a cluster .... No matter what the rule, someone will bitch. Times have changed and that is really the issue. Use of the trails has grown to the point of overuse. Back in the day, the areas we're discussing were inaccessible by full size rigs and that kept the traffic down. As the basic Jeep (TJ) got larger it forced its way into the trails and they got wider. Not harder, just wider. If anything, most trails got easier as they got wider. Add to that the huge increase in SUV type vehicles and in a rather short period of time any idiot with 4 wheel drive thinks they should be able to take any rig on any trail. Nevermind that the trails were built by and for smaller rigs. Many, if not most of us, have built our rigs for the trail. If you choose to build some huge monster don't expect everyone to welcome it on the trails. Some of us like challenges and people now seem to overbuild so any challenge is now gone. Of course many of those same people bitch because now nothing is hard enough for them. I would bet that if we had self policed ourselves and built rigs that were under..say 80", much of the pressure from the USFS and DNR would be minimized. As a wheeling community, we've created these problems with the various agencies. If we can't, as a group, agree on some REASONABLE requirements, these requirements will be chosen for us. It's all about 'me'. "I'll agree to anything that doesn't require me to change". That attitude effects every decision made about ANYTHING. I'm willing to bet that if others (the agencies) choose the requirements, even fewer of us will be happy. Here is how I see this playing out- The agencies will create new requirements that will keep many of us off the trail. Some will bitch and sell their rigs, others will modify their rigs and yet others, those already meeting the requirements, will carry on as if nothing has happened. Those of us that choose to meet these requirements will find the trails less crowded and probably under less polical pressure. We'll know and understand the requirements and self police ourselves to be sure that we can continue to enjoy our hobby. Which group will you be in? [/QUOTE]
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