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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Furrier" data-source="post: 717878" data-attributes="member: 14301"><p>First time poster full disclosure: I'm Jeff Furrier from UPR Racing Supply in Tucson Az. I'm a lifetime off roader/racer, I've been in the business since the early 80's. We've(UPR) been the driving force behind shell style seats in off road racing for about 15 years. I designed the pad in the link above specifically hard seats to make them safer and more comfortable in off road cars. The UPR seat pad is honestly being used by a large percentage of the top off road racers, Rob Mac, Menzies, McMillins and many more. </p><p> I'm not here to answer questions if you'd like, I'm not an ambulance chaser trying to capitalize on your friend's accident. I see ISC has been mentioned in this thread, I have a ton of respect for Chris and we share similar philosophies on seating. If he's a sponsor, buy from him. If I post a link or picture to something we sell, its for educational purposes and not a sales pitch.</p><p></p><p>I've investigated plenty of hard crashes, I'd like to see video of the one in question if its available.</p><p></p><p>Here's a couple bullet points based on some of the posts. </p><p>I have never seen a containment seat in an off road car, a containment seat is what you commonly see in NASCAR Cup cars that contains a drivers whole body. If a seat has side head restraints which are being used in off road cars, that could be called a halo seat or head restraint seat.</p><p></p><p>A suspension seat isn't a smoother ride, it's a rougher ride. Every time you hit a bump in a suspension seat, you travel down, then bounce up, then down again. You take about three times as many hits as you would in a solid seat with proper padding. The more you move, the more chance you have of being hurt. Think about how loose your belts are after the first hit because you compress 3 or 4 inches? Then on the second hit your belts are loose, so you move even more. </p><p>There's no dampening in a suspension seat, its only a spring suspended by Nylon cord. Its not really suspension as your car has suspension; it really is a "suspended" seat as you are suspended in it by the cord and mat that holds the bottom.</p><p></p><p>Seat belt set up is the cause of a large percentage of injuries. Today I bet 80 percent of the off road racecars are set up wrong..if not more. You have no chance of a proper set up in most suspension seats because the belts bind as they go through the seats so they are never tight. The shoulder harness should hold you back, not down. If your shoulder harness is pulling down and is uncomfortable when you tighten it, its wrong. Ratchet belts work fine, but they are often used as a Band-Aid for a bad set up. I sell them, but don't use them in anything.</p><p></p><p>Here's a good explanation of how to set up belts properly, its from a Jeep project I'm working on. </p><p>Post 219 - https://goo.gl/x5Q2Tq</p><p></p><p>I'll do my best to respond or feel free to call us or email us through the UPR.com website with questions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Furrier, post: 717878, member: 14301"] First time poster full disclosure: I’m Jeff Furrier from UPR Racing Supply in Tucson Az. I’m a lifetime off roader/racer, I’ve been in the business since the early 80’s. We’ve(UPR) been the driving force behind shell style seats in off road racing for about 15 years. I designed the pad in the link above specifically hard seats to make them safer and more comfortable in off road cars. The UPR seat pad is honestly being used by a large percentage of the top off road racers, Rob Mac, Menzies, McMillins and many more. I’m not here to answer questions if you’d like, I’m not an ambulance chaser trying to capitalize on your friend’s accident. I see ISC has been mentioned in this thread, I have a ton of respect for Chris and we share similar philosophies on seating. If he’s a sponsor, buy from him. If I post a link or picture to something we sell, its for educational purposes and not a sales pitch. I’ve investigated plenty of hard crashes, I’d like to see video of the one in question if its available. Here’s a couple bullet points based on some of the posts. I have never seen a containment seat in an off road car, a containment seat is what you commonly see in NASCAR Cup cars that contains a drivers whole body. If a seat has side head restraints which are being used in off road cars, that could be called a halo seat or head restraint seat. A suspension seat isn’t a smoother ride, it’s a rougher ride. Every time you hit a bump in a suspension seat, you travel down, then bounce up, then down again. You take about three times as many hits as you would in a solid seat with proper padding. The more you move, the more chance you have of being hurt. Think about how loose your belts are after the first hit because you compress 3 or 4 inches? Then on the second hit your belts are loose, so you move even more. There’s no dampening in a suspension seat, its only a spring suspended by Nylon cord. Its not really suspension as your car has suspension; it really is a “suspended” seat as you are suspended in it by the cord and mat that holds the bottom. Seat belt set up is the cause of a large percentage of injuries. Today I bet 80 percent of the off road racecars are set up wrong..if not more. You have no chance of a proper set up in most suspension seats because the belts bind as they go through the seats so they are never tight. The shoulder harness should hold you back, not down. If your shoulder harness is pulling down and is uncomfortable when you tighten it, its wrong. Ratchet belts work fine, but they are often used as a Band-Aid for a bad set up. I sell them, but don't use them in anything. Here’s a good explanation of how to set up belts properly, its from a Jeep project I’m working on. Post 219 - https://goo.gl/x5Q2Tq I'll do my best to respond or feel free to call us or email us through the UPR.com website with questions. [/QUOTE]
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