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<blockquote data-quote="John Galbreath Jr." data-source="post: 461337" data-attributes="member: 31"><p>I have always been one in support of suspension seats and against tub style seats. However, after doing a lot of research over the last few days, I am not sure. In my old Single Seater, I went through one suspension seat and the second replacement was a Corbeau LG-1. When the Solo Buggy was built, that seat was used from the Single Seater. I have now broken down the bolster on the door side. I also have these same seats in the 38 Special.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://corbeau.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/g/lg1-web-01_1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>I can find no information in print about the minimum distance required under a suspension seat. Mastercraft did say on Race-Dezert that 3 inches was minimum. In order to keep the roof line as low as possible, I had Adam keep the seat as low as possible, even not using sliders. The seat bolts straight through the floor on the rear and is on a 1/4" riser in the front, just to allow bolt access. There is no way to gain room under the seat. So, do I now have a non-suspending suspension seat? I think so, the seat has no downward movement except what is in the padding.</p><p></p><p>So, why not go to a tub style seat, like a Sparco?</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.sparcousa.com/sites/default/files/products/EVO%20II%20us%202012%20GRP%20NR%20%28Large%29.JPG" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>I have always been against tub style, or Kirkey style. I have told many that they needed to remove them from their buggy, because they were unsafe. But, I have never heard or anybody getting hurt in one. Several of the bouncers use them. I realize Patoyee got hurt, but I think those seats were plastic. I'm sure he will chime in.</p><p></p><p>In reading, I found this old thread on Race-Dezert,</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/another-broken-back-at-the-parker-425-suspension-seats.58050/" target="_blank">http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/another-broken-back-at-the-parker-425-suspension-seats.58050/</a></p><p></p><p>Here is a newer thread.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/suspension-seats-vs-hard-seats.119703/#post-1632904" target="_blank">http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/suspension-seats-vs-hard-seats.119703/#post-1632904</a></p><p></p><p>Looking at going with the Sparco Evo 2 US (Pic Above) with the UPR foam. It is expensive at $979 for one. </p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.upr.com/images/M124383631.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>With that said, I have always had problems keeping my harnesses tight, and my back hurts after a day of riding. So, upgrading to a ratchet style harness from Hooker Harness. But, it is stupid expensive at $630 for one harness. I do not want to go away from the camlock, and I have not found another manufacturer. Would love to find just the ratchet assembly.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.hookerharness.com/update/data/upimages/Ratchet1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Another Race-Dezert thread from Dustin Webster.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/ratchet-seat-belts.60680/" target="_blank">http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/ratchet-seat-belts.60680/</a></p><p></p><p>I feel I am hurting because the suspension seat does not have enough clearance to work properly (Not Adam's fault, I told him where to place the seat), and the harnesses continually loosening allowing body movement.</p><p></p><p>I have been rear suspension tuning recently, and have it so it is a lot better / softer and no longer constantly hitting the bump stops. Now, rarely hitting bump, any only once at Choccolocco did I bottom out a bump. Saw it using wire ties, but not hard enough to feel. This has helped, but I think I can get better with seating. </p><p></p><p>Looking for input, especially from the racers, and race car shops.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I'm old, but not researching walkers yet <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies2/flipoffsmirk.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":flipoff1:" title="Flipoffsmirk :flipoff1:" data-shortname=":flipoff1:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Galbreath Jr., post: 461337, member: 31"] I have always been one in support of suspension seats and against tub style seats. However, after doing a lot of research over the last few days, I am not sure. In my old Single Seater, I went through one suspension seat and the second replacement was a Corbeau LG-1. When the Solo Buggy was built, that seat was used from the Single Seater. I have now broken down the bolster on the door side. I also have these same seats in the 38 Special. [IMG]http://corbeau.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/g/lg1-web-01_1.jpg[/IMG] I can find no information in print about the minimum distance required under a suspension seat. Mastercraft did say on Race-Dezert that 3 inches was minimum. In order to keep the roof line as low as possible, I had Adam keep the seat as low as possible, even not using sliders. The seat bolts straight through the floor on the rear and is on a 1/4" riser in the front, just to allow bolt access. There is no way to gain room under the seat. So, do I now have a non-suspending suspension seat? I think so, the seat has no downward movement except what is in the padding. So, why not go to a tub style seat, like a Sparco? [IMG]http://www.sparcousa.com/sites/default/files/products/EVO%20II%20us%202012%20GRP%20NR%20%28Large%29.JPG[/IMG] I have always been against tub style, or Kirkey style. I have told many that they needed to remove them from their buggy, because they were unsafe. But, I have never heard or anybody getting hurt in one. Several of the bouncers use them. I realize Patoyee got hurt, but I think those seats were plastic. I'm sure he will chime in. In reading, I found this old thread on Race-Dezert, [url=http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/another-broken-back-at-the-parker-425-suspension-seats.58050/]http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/another-broken-back-at-the-parker-425-suspension-seats.58050/[/url] Here is a newer thread. [url=http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/suspension-seats-vs-hard-seats.119703/#post-1632904]http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/suspension-seats-vs-hard-seats.119703/#post-1632904[/url] Looking at going with the Sparco Evo 2 US (Pic Above) with the UPR foam. It is expensive at $979 for one. [IMG]http://www.upr.com/images/M124383631.jpg[/IMG] With that said, I have always had problems keeping my harnesses tight, and my back hurts after a day of riding. So, upgrading to a ratchet style harness from Hooker Harness. But, it is stupid expensive at $630 for one harness. I do not want to go away from the camlock, and I have not found another manufacturer. Would love to find just the ratchet assembly. [IMG]http://www.hookerharness.com/update/data/upimages/Ratchet1.jpg[/IMG] Another Race-Dezert thread from Dustin Webster. [url=http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/ratchet-seat-belts.60680/]http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/ratchet-seat-belts.60680/[/url] I feel I am hurting because the suspension seat does not have enough clearance to work properly (Not Adam's fault, I told him where to place the seat), and the harnesses continually loosening allowing body movement. I have been rear suspension tuning recently, and have it so it is a lot better / softer and no longer constantly hitting the bump stops. Now, rarely hitting bump, any only once at Choccolocco did I bottom out a bump. Saw it using wire ties, but not hard enough to feel. This has helped, but I think I can get better with seating. Looking for input, especially from the racers, and race car shops. Yes, I'm old, but not researching walkers yet :flipoff1: [/QUOTE]
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