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Solid Pinion Spacer vs. Crush Sleeve?
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<blockquote data-quote="CHOP SHOP" data-source="post: 1484941" data-attributes="member: 17493"><p>Your thinking with your BRAIN, not with others advice or internet guiding. Good job Boonie, look past worthless advice and use REASON. Good on ya.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You are correct Boonie, a crush sleeve can only fail if other things fail too.</p><p></p><p>Think about it, a crush sleeve HAS to get SHORTER to fail. The only way it can get shorter is if the BEARINGS/RACES are able to get CLOSER to each other.</p><p></p><p>If the bearings can move then the races are not seated proplerly and the crush sleeve is not to blame. The bearing install is.</p><p></p><p>If the pinion has contacted the carrier then MOST folks will blame the crush sleeve, saying it let the pinion move closer to the carrier when it crushed the sleeve more and failed. WRONG the only way a pinion can contact the carrier is if the bearings move/wear or the pinion NUT BACKS OFF.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do any of you own a car with a solid spacer or crush sleeve in between the wheel bearings? Didnt think so. I mean cmon, wheel bearings fail all the time cuz they have no solid spacer, right?</p><p></p><p>Folks that dont quite understand how forces are pushed inside a diff will blame all kinds of things when a failure happens. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have brought this up before and got shot down by folks that should know better. I expected all the internet "know it all, but never done its" to shoot me down but other folks that should get it still dont.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Good topic. Nobody will have any EVIDENCE of a crush sleeve failing, just speculation and blame for poor crush sleeves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CHOP SHOP, post: 1484941, member: 17493"] Your thinking with your BRAIN, not with others advice or internet guiding. Good job Boonie, look past worthless advice and use REASON. Good on ya. You are correct Boonie, a crush sleeve can only fail if other things fail too. Think about it, a crush sleeve HAS to get SHORTER to fail. The only way it can get shorter is if the BEARINGS/RACES are able to get CLOSER to each other. If the bearings can move then the races are not seated proplerly and the crush sleeve is not to blame. The bearing install is. If the pinion has contacted the carrier then MOST folks will blame the crush sleeve, saying it let the pinion move closer to the carrier when it crushed the sleeve more and failed. WRONG the only way a pinion can contact the carrier is if the bearings move/wear or the pinion NUT BACKS OFF. Do any of you own a car with a solid spacer or crush sleeve in between the wheel bearings? Didnt think so. I mean cmon, wheel bearings fail all the time cuz they have no solid spacer, right? Folks that dont quite understand how forces are pushed inside a diff will blame all kinds of things when a failure happens. I have brought this up before and got shot down by folks that should know better. I expected all the internet "know it all, but never done its" to shoot me down but other folks that should get it still dont. Good topic. Nobody will have any EVIDENCE of a crush sleeve failing, just speculation and blame for poor crush sleeves. [/QUOTE]
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