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<blockquote data-quote="GLTHFJ60" data-source="post: 755071" data-attributes="member: 15719"><p>Also, follow-up info, the HAM license ends at 2m 148mhz, so even licensed HAMs can't legally transmit on some of the frequencies that rugged radios use. Turns out is kind a quagmire grey-area, and a lot of the bands rugged radios use (and license?) overlap with regional municipalities, which is a big no-no. References below.</p><p></p><p>This is all to say, who knows legally with the rugged radios. They've been cited before for FCC violations, selling radios on those bands. Most HAM radios can transmit on the whole of 2m/70cm, so you *can* talk from a HAM radio to a rugged radio, but it's not "technically" legal.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, sorry for going down that rat-hole. I remember seeing rugged radios being sold at a lucas offroad race in chandler, az, and the rep there had no idea what radio tech the radios he was selling used. Either that or he wouldn't tell me for whatever reason.</p><p></p><p>Quoted from another forum....</p><p></p><p><em>Here is who you could be interfering with by using the frequencies programmed into that radio.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>1 WTHRMN 151.625</u></strong></em></p><p><em>2701 Licensed users. Including: Union Pacific, FCA US, Subaru, University of Oklahoma, NM State University, BP, Exxon, Boeing,</em></p><p><em>Vertex standard (Yaesu ham radios), UPS</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>2 BFGRLY 151.715</u></strong></em></p><p><em>1243 Licensed users. Including: Many school districts, City/State agencies, McDonalds, and various businesses.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>3 BAJAPTS 154.980</u></strong></em></p><p><em>644 License users. Including: State, City, County, Police and Fire for States all over the country.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>4 NETWORK 151.685</u></strong></em></p><p><em>1232 Licensed users. Including: American Airlines, School districts and Universities, Costco, fast food restaurants.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><u><strong>5 CHECKRS 151.925</strong></u></em></p><p><em>1178 License users. Including: Verizon, Haliburton, Hospitals, City/State, Schools/Colleges, various businesses.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>6 FAIR 150.860</u></strong></em></p><p><em>127 License users. Including: Hospitals, automotive, schools.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>7 YOKOHAM 153.110</u></strong></em></p><p><em>396 License users. Including: Exxon, Marathon Oil, Shell, ConocoPhillips, Chevron, NBC Telemundo, FCA US, CBS, Clear Channel, various other TV/Radio.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><u><strong>8 RUGGED RELAY 152.960</strong></u></em></p><p><em>653 Licensed users. Including: Various Oil/Gas companies, Concrete companies, Kingsford Charcoal, many farms, Urgent Ambulance service, schools.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>9 CHKRS 2 151.505</u></strong></em></p><p><em>1736 Licensed users. Including: UPS, Construction companies, Conoco, Phillips 66, Exxon, Goodyear, AM General, T-Mobile, Tampa Bay Search and Rescue & REACT. Denali Off Road club holds a license for their members.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><u><strong>10 BFGPITS 153.395</strong></u></em></p><p><em>282 Licensed users. Including: FCA US, Northrop Grumman, Dow Corning, Oil/Gas, farms, Tyson foods, Kroger, Oklahoma State University, Boeing.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><u><strong>11 MAG 7 153.380</strong></u></em></p><p><em>295 Licensed users. Including: GE, PPG Paints, Ford, Trane, Citgo, 3M, Green Bay Packaging, Valero, Yokohama Tires, OK State, University of Texas Permian Basin, Idaho Power Company, New Hampshire, Electric Coop, IBM.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>12 RESCUE 155.160</u></strong></em></p><p><em>1133 Licensed Users. Including: National Ski Patrol, many search and rescue teams, many municipalities, schools, and hospitals.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>13 CORE 153.245</u></strong></em></p><p><em>227 Licensed Users. Including: Sinclair, Exxon, Dow Corning, Northrop Grumman, 3M, Volvo Trucks, Nestle Purina, various manufacturing companies, Dana (axles), many schools, municipalities.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>14 PRIVATE 156.675</u></strong></em></p><p><em>117 Licensed Users. Including: Municipalities, Chevron, Shell, towing companies, oil/gas, many maritime businesses,</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><u><strong>15 SANDLMO 152.510</strong></u></em></p><p><em>53 Licensed Users. Including: Communication companies, Telephone companies,</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>16 PCI RLY 154.515</u></strong></em></p><p><em>1738 Licensed Users. Including: Municipalities, many Hospitals, many schools, Fastfood.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><u>17 BITD 151.490</u></strong></em></p><p><em>540 Licensed Users. Including: Oregon State Forestry, Nevada Dept of Wildlife, State of Arizona, Penn State Police, State of California, farms, NH State Dept of Corrections, City/County, State of Maine Info Tech, Texas DOT, schools, State of Washington, State of West Virginia, Lockheed Martin,</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><u><strong>18 KOH 1 157.450</strong></u></em></p><p><em>200 Lincesed Users. Including: many hospitals, schools, City/County, State of New Jersey, City of New York, State of Colorado, State of California, State of New Mexico, LA County, State of Nebraska.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GLTHFJ60, post: 755071, member: 15719"] Also, follow-up info, the HAM license ends at 2m 148mhz, so even licensed HAMs can't legally transmit on some of the frequencies that rugged radios use. Turns out is kind a quagmire grey-area, and a lot of the bands rugged radios use (and license?) overlap with regional municipalities, which is a big no-no. References below. This is all to say, who knows legally with the rugged radios. They've been cited before for FCC violations, selling radios on those bands. Most HAM radios can transmit on the whole of 2m/70cm, so you *can* talk from a HAM radio to a rugged radio, but it's not "technically" legal. Anyway, sorry for going down that rat-hole. I remember seeing rugged radios being sold at a lucas offroad race in chandler, az, and the rep there had no idea what radio tech the radios he was selling used. Either that or he wouldn't tell me for whatever reason. Quoted from another forum.... [I]Here is who you could be interfering with by using the frequencies programmed into that radio. [B][U]1 WTHRMN 151.625[/U][/B] 2701 Licensed users. Including: Union Pacific, FCA US, Subaru, University of Oklahoma, NM State University, BP, Exxon, Boeing, Vertex standard (Yaesu ham radios), UPS [B][U]2 BFGRLY 151.715[/U][/B] 1243 Licensed users. Including: Many school districts, City/State agencies, McDonalds, and various businesses. [B][U]3 BAJAPTS 154.980[/U][/B] 644 License users. Including: State, City, County, Police and Fire for States all over the country. [B][U]4 NETWORK 151.685[/U][/B] 1232 Licensed users. Including: American Airlines, School districts and Universities, Costco, fast food restaurants. [U][B]5 CHECKRS 151.925[/B][/U] 1178 License users. Including: Verizon, Haliburton, Hospitals, City/State, Schools/Colleges, various businesses. [B][U]6 FAIR 150.860[/U][/B] 127 License users. Including: Hospitals, automotive, schools. [B][U]7 YOKOHAM 153.110[/U][/B] 396 License users. Including: Exxon, Marathon Oil, Shell, ConocoPhillips, Chevron, NBC Telemundo, FCA US, CBS, Clear Channel, various other TV/Radio. [U][B]8 RUGGED RELAY 152.960[/B][/U] 653 Licensed users. Including: Various Oil/Gas companies, Concrete companies, Kingsford Charcoal, many farms, Urgent Ambulance service, schools. [B][U]9 CHKRS 2 151.505[/U][/B] 1736 Licensed users. Including: UPS, Construction companies, Conoco, Phillips 66, Exxon, Goodyear, AM General, T-Mobile, Tampa Bay Search and Rescue & REACT. Denali Off Road club holds a license for their members. [U][B]10 BFGPITS 153.395[/B][/U] 282 Licensed users. Including: FCA US, Northrop Grumman, Dow Corning, Oil/Gas, farms, Tyson foods, Kroger, Oklahoma State University, Boeing. [U][B]11 MAG 7 153.380[/B][/U] 295 Licensed users. Including: GE, PPG Paints, Ford, Trane, Citgo, 3M, Green Bay Packaging, Valero, Yokohama Tires, OK State, University of Texas Permian Basin, Idaho Power Company, New Hampshire, Electric Coop, IBM. [B][U]12 RESCUE 155.160[/U][/B] 1133 Licensed Users. Including: National Ski Patrol, many search and rescue teams, many municipalities, schools, and hospitals. [B][U]13 CORE 153.245[/U][/B] 227 Licensed Users. Including: Sinclair, Exxon, Dow Corning, Northrop Grumman, 3M, Volvo Trucks, Nestle Purina, various manufacturing companies, Dana (axles), many schools, municipalities. [B][U]14 PRIVATE 156.675[/U][/B] 117 Licensed Users. Including: Municipalities, Chevron, Shell, towing companies, oil/gas, many maritime businesses, [U][B]15 SANDLMO 152.510[/B][/U] 53 Licensed Users. Including: Communication companies, Telephone companies, [B][U]16 PCI RLY 154.515[/U][/B] 1738 Licensed Users. Including: Municipalities, many Hospitals, many schools, Fastfood. [B][U]17 BITD 151.490[/U][/B] 540 Licensed Users. Including: Oregon State Forestry, Nevada Dept of Wildlife, State of Arizona, Penn State Police, State of California, farms, NH State Dept of Corrections, City/County, State of Maine Info Tech, Texas DOT, schools, State of Washington, State of West Virginia, Lockheed Martin, [U][B]18 KOH 1 157.450[/B][/U] 200 Lincesed Users. Including: many hospitals, schools, City/County, State of New Jersey, City of New York, State of Colorado, State of California, State of New Mexico, LA County, State of Nebraska.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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