Seatbelt tabs?

skipnrocks · Jan 9, 2018

I was wondering what your guises thoughts were on mounting the seatbelts to the seat tabs. In the case I'm thinking of I have a long travel billet aluminum seat sliders. And adjusting the travel all the time on your seatbelt is a giant pain in the butt as a kid switch positions. I don't see any reason not to mount the seatbelt with the seat tabs but thought maybe somebody else would have a different experience.

slravenel · Jan 9, 2018

SBJeepn said:
I was wondering what your guises thoughts were on mounting the seatbelts to the seat tabs. In the case I'm thinking of I have a long travel billet aluminum seat sliders. And adjusting the travel all the time on your seatbelt is a giant pain in the butt as a kid switch positions. I don't see any reason not to mount the seatbelt with the seat tabs but thought maybe somebody else would have a different experience.

I dont see any issue with it either - only thing would be bolt size. Most seats are 3/8 bolts mounted and seatbelts are usually bigger...could maybe add some weld washers or something to the seatbelt to fill it up?

Stuntman Autoworks · Jan 16, 2018

SBJeepn said:
I was wondering what your guises thoughts were on mounting the seatbelts to the seat tabs. In the case I'm thinking of I have a long travel billet aluminum seat sliders. And adjusting the travel all the time on your seatbelt is a giant pain in the butt as a kid switch positions. I don't see any reason not to mount the seatbelt with the seat tabs but thought maybe somebody else would have a different experience.

In the warnings and instructions that came with my harnesses when they were new it said not to bolt to the seat or seat mount. Probably a safety thing. It would probably be fine though.

gottagofast · Jan 17, 2018

You're talking about counting on the sliders to hold you in the rig?.... if so NO WAY would I trust that

skipnrocks · Jan 17, 2018

https://www.chassisunlimited.com/anodized-billet-aluminum-seat-loc-slider.html

These are the sliders I'm using. Keep in mind it's not a bouncer and fits mainly little people. I just can't imagine one of these breaking loose. If not
What options do I have to not have to adjust the crap out of the lap belt every time the seat needs moved. Which is often.

Bebop · Jan 17, 2018

Good read :

http://www.sfifoundation.com/wp-content/pdfs/guidelines-bulletins/Seatbelt%20Installation%20Guide%2006-05-12.pdf

the_white_shadow · Jan 17, 2018

I dont have sliders and use the double shear seat tabs from RuffStuff and bolt my belts in to the seat mounts. I did drill out the hole just slightly on my PRPs and am running 1/2" grade 8s. I dont see an issue with it. Not sure what most governing race bodies say about it though.

slravenel · Jan 17, 2018

the_white_shadow said:
I dont have sliders and use the double shear seat tabs from RuffStuff and bolt my belts in to the seat mounts. I did drill out the hole just slightly on my PRPs and am running 1/2" grade 8s. I dont see an issue with it. Not sure what most governing race bodies say about it though.

he definitely wouldnt pass tech at any legit race...but for trail riding, those alum billet sliders are just as strong as anything else. Its not ideal...but it would certainly work.

skipnrocks · Jan 17, 2018

Bebop said:
Good read :

http://www.sfifoundation.com/wp-content/pdfs/guidelines-bulletins/Seatbelt%20Installation%20Guide%2006-05-12.pdf

That was good from what I think I read is the lap belt would be at a poor angle once the seat is slid forward and in order to have a proper seat belt angle it would have to be mobile somehow. Aside from a series of tabs I am not sure how to do that. but the seat has multiple bolts and a crap ton of aluminum holding them in place I still cant imagine it being an issue for trail riding. But would never want to make a mistake ending in an injury. So I am open to input and direction. But if its not a good idea I need an alternative one that will accommodate moving the kids often. Ranging from 5-12 so you can see the dramatic changes needed.

gottagofast · Jan 17, 2018

Only the driver's seat needs to be adjustable....
assuming a 4 seat rig give the kids assigned seats?
Install seatbelts with retractors on the shoulders so only the lap needs adjusted?
Use lighter belts... 2" adjust easier than 3" and you ain't hitting a wall at 200 mph?

Just a couple thoughts

bgredjeep · Jan 17, 2018

FYI, my PRP lap belt has loads of adjustment available. Like a foot of extra when I'm cinched down. I use the same sliders but only move the seat a max of about 5" forward from my position so my wife can drive.

skipnrocks · Jan 17, 2018

gottagofast said:
Only the driver's seat needs to be adjustable....
assuming a 4 seat rig give the kids assigned seats?
Install seatbelts with retractors on the shoulders so only the lap needs adjusted?
Use lighter belts... 2" adjust easier than 3" and you ain't hitting a wall at 200 mph?

Just a couple thoughts

So the rig is actually the kids rig, only the drivers seat adjusts and there are only two seats. So the four drivers range from 5 to 12 years old. I need to put pics on maybe its time I finally got taptalk. But hopefully that helps. Top speed of the rig is close to 55 if it was pegged at 6k rpm. but in reality it will be used for trails.

skipnrocks · Jan 17, 2018

bgredjeep said:
FYI, my PRP lap belt has loads of adjustment available. Like a foot of extra when I'm cinched down. I use the same sliders but only move the seat a max of about 5" forward from my position so my wife can drive.

The prp belts are the ones I am using their awesome, the ones with the padded shoulders and the buckle in the lap instead of the pieces you have to click together. your right there is a lot of adjust ability just not easy especially the right hand side since those two seats pretty much touch.

gottagofast · Jan 17, 2018

Gotcha.... as an aside I think for those ages I'd rig up a speed limiter to about 20 mph

paradisepwoffrd · Jan 17, 2018

Re: Re: Seatbelt tabs?

SBJeepn said:
The prp belts are the ones I am using their awesome, the ones with the padded shoulders and the buckle in the lap instead of the pieces you have to click together. your right there is a lot of adjust ability just not easy especially the right hand side since those two seats pretty much touch.

My plan for a future kids build is to make the pedals and steering wheel adjustable, so the seat can stay fixed.

skipnrocks · Jan 17, 2018

gottagofast said:
Gotcha.... as an aside I think for those ages I'd rig up a speed limiter to about 20 mph

I was thinking of telling them to only run in second. Lol. Top speed wouldn't be over 30

skipnrocks · Jan 17, 2018

Re: Re: Seatbelt tabs?

paradisepwoffrd said:
My plan for a future kids build is to make the pedals and steering wheel adjustable, so the seat can stay fixed.

I thought of putting the pedals on a seat slider.

gottagofast · Jan 17, 2018

Here's another option to consider

https://3built.com/collections/extended-range-remote-shut-off/products/res12vce-long-range-kit-for-vehicles-with-a-12-volt-starter-battery