Fastest tube bender?

Nuts · Feb 24, 2015

I have a manual JD2 bender and have been thinking about converting it to air/hydro for a while. The thing stopping me is that every setup I've seen has been slow as ****. I don't mind pulling the handle, I just want to get the bends done quicker. Is there a good pump that increases cylinder speed or a valve that flows more?

85toyo · Feb 24, 2015

If speed is what you're after go electric over hydro. Only thing stopping me is the $800 pump :****:

Nuts · Feb 24, 2015

85toyo said:
If speed is what you're after go electric over hydro. Only thing stopping me is the $800 pump :****:

I'm ok with electric too. So which is the best/quickest for the money? Tonight I had to bend 20, 45* bends and the entire time I was thinking how stupidly slow the process was and that I'm ready to up grade

85toyo · Feb 24, 2015

I've never used air over hydro, only seen some videos and they look stupid slow. Pretty sure I could bend faster manually. Then you have to listen to a compressor running the whole time.

Used a buddy's electric over hydro bender and it was fast and quite. Like I said in the previous post, the only down side to electric is the setup price which is why most people have air over hydro.

mac5005 · Feb 24, 2015

I have a mittler bros air over hydraulic, and it will bend 2.0" .120 l" 90 degrees in less than 30 secs.

1TONTJ · Feb 24, 2015

The electric pump is twice as fast as the air / hydraulic pump. Its definitely worth the money.

pholmann · Feb 24, 2015

I have this on mine and I like it. Good for the $$ too.

http://www.swagoffroad.com/Tubing-Bender-AirHydraulic-Ram-Mount_p_53.html

SomewhiteGuy · Feb 25, 2015

1TONTJ said:
The electric pump is twice as fast as the air / hydraulic pump. Its definitely worth the money.

x2 I ran air over for years and now work with electric over and would never go back, faster and quieter.

Nuts · Feb 25, 2015

3p seconds to a 90 is unacceptable for me, I can beat that by hand. Which electric pump are you guys getting the best results from?

fordcontraption01 · Feb 25, 2015

You can take an electric motor 115v and put on a v belt pully and get an automotive power steering pump and a log spitter valve and a double acting cylinder and it will bend instantly and as fast as you want it too but controllability will be the the thing with this setup. But I have seen it done and it works great but it's homebrew.

1TONTJ · Feb 25, 2015

I just have the one offered by JD2: http://jd2.com/p-37-electric-1-hp-4000-psi-hyd-pump-4-way-valve-and-hose.aspx

If you didn't have to stop and re-pin the die, it would bend a 90 in a few seconds.

MtnGoat · Feb 25, 2015

I run air over hydraulic and it does .250wall 90degrees no issue it all...I mean it dosent take more than a couple mins...

Unless you need 1.0min/unit cycle time....and plan to produce 50k of them a year....I would just keep it simple.

Nuts · Feb 25, 2015

1TONTJ said:
I just have the one offered by JD2: http://jd2.com/p-37-electric-1-hp-4000-psi-hyd-pump-4-way-valve-and-hose.aspx

If you didn't have to stop and re-pin the die, it would bend a 90 in a few seconds.

Exactly what I need, thanks!!!!!

85toyo · Feb 25, 2015

AdamF said:
Exactly what I need, thanks!!!!!

Use discount code "Pirate4x4" for 10% discount.

Trailpunisher · Feb 25, 2015

I have a lift in my shop so I used a couple quick connects and use the pump on it for my bender. I can bend 180 in under 30 sec

Rokcrler · Feb 25, 2015

here ya go.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tools-equipment/2002106-110v-hydraulic-pump.html

xjpaddler · Feb 25, 2015

Wow! I really need to up grade my stuff????

Puppy · Feb 26, 2015

I converted my JD2 model 3 to hydro and it is too fast. You have to really throttle back as to not overbend.

grcthird · Feb 26, 2015

Trailpunisher said:
I have a lift in my shop so I used a couple quick connects and use the pump on it for my bender. I can bend 180 in under 30 sec

I was wondering when somebody was going to do this. If I ever get a shop that I can set my lift up in, and a bender, and time, I'l be doing this. Where/what fittings did you get or use?