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myth and fact about confedrate flag

rzr1

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Do to recent events here's fews facts everybody needs to read.

History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispell some of these rampant inaccuracies.

MYTH - The War of 1861 - 1865 was fought over slavery.

FACT - Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, "Why not let the South go in peace?" To which he replied, "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?" Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion.


MYTH - Only Southerners owned slaves.

FACT - Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.

Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.

U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."

Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.

FACT - NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portugese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.

BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.

These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products madefrom raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.

This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.

FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.

The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.

The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.

The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Stars & Bars".

FACT - A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the "Stars & Bars". The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Southern Cross".


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.

FACT - The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.


MYTH - The United States Flag represented freedom.

FACT - No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it's commodities. It wasn't until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.


MYTH - Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

FACT - While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.


MYTH - The South revered slavery.

FACT - A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.


MYTH - The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.

FACT - Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.


MYTH - Only the North had men of color in their ranks.

FACT - Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.

Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.


MYTH - The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.

FACT - Quite the contrary. These dispicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE - NOT HATE.


MYTH - The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.

FACT - This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendents of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.

The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK.
 
Re: myth and fact about confedrate flag

Any forum is the right forum for an education in important history. Nice work on the compilation of facts.


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johneddie said:
:wtflol: Are you the "new" General Discussion police??? :dunno:
Nope just bein me!
And furthermore since things around here have had to been pointed back in the right direction I thought I would try and do my part! :dunno:
 
al1tonyota said:
Nope just bein me!
And furthermore since things around here have had to been pointed back in the right direction I thought I would try and do my part! :dunno:
So you are the "police".... self appointed I assume??? Kinda looks like a troll to me.
But that's just my opinion....or is this the wrong forum? I can live with it or without it. Don't matter to me...

To the OP: Enjoyed your post and sorry for the derail. thumb.gif
 
johneddie said:
So you are the "police".... self appointed I assume??? Kinda looks like a troll to me.
But that's just my opinion....or is this the wrong forum? I can live with it or without it. Don't matter to me...

To the OP: Enjoyed your post and sorry for the derail. thumb.gif
Not police! :flipper: I am just another member of this forum and am tired of the extra crap I have TV and Internet that have pleanty of that on it. I guess I should just keep my opinion to my self? Troll nah damn sure ain't that ain't looking for any arguments or fights. Hell I've even been trying to be nice to the new folks by posting pics and welcoming them to the site! You do you and I'm just gonna worry about me bud!
 
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My two favorite guys in politics, Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napolitano have always said Lincoln was a tyrant and the Civil War was entirely unnecessary. I've seen them get blasted on TV over this topic and this is the book they go back to so I finally got my own copy to check it out. I remember my college history professor telling us all that bullshit history stuff we learned in school about the Civil War was flat out lies and I've wanted to get deeper into but haven't until I get into this book.

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al1tonyota said:
Not police! :flipper: I am just another member of this forum and am tired of the extra crap I have TV and Internet that have pleanty of that on it. I guess I should just keep my opinion to my self? Troll nah damn sure ain't that ain't looking for any arguments or fights. Hell I've even been trying to be nice to the new folks by posting pics and welcoming them to the site! You do you and I'm just gonna worry about me bud!
Stop screwing up a good thread. If the people of importance feel like it's in the wrong place, they will take care of it.

Op, great thread and information. Thanks and learned a few things. Looks like I found a new book to read.
 
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Mortalis5509 said:
Stop screwing up a good thread. If the people of importance feel like it's in the wrong place, they will take care of it.

Op, great thread and information. Thanks and learned a few things. Looks like I found a new book to read.
Ha screw up a good thread! Here's you a link if you want to learn! Tell them about your buggy while you are there! http://www.scv.org
 
Myth: Confedrate is the correct spelling

Fact: It's spelled Confederate..that's all I have to add to this conversation.

The fact that nobody else noticed or cared to correct it tells me we have a problem with ignorance, apathy or both. Carry on.
 
Ain't :stir: but looks like it's back to "General Discussion".
I'm all good ..no hard feelings. We can agree to disagree...that's our right. :drinkers:
 
creepycrawly said:
The fact that nobody else noticed or cared to correct it tells me we have a problem with ignorance, apathy or both. Carry on.
I think it's a good thing. All too often people would rather bitch, than to just let things go because they know what someone meant. Letting stuff like that slide seems more right, genuine, and less politically correct. There's enough of that going around these days.
 
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