Pretty good example

[bigsilly]

Maybe over simplified but interesting.....

JOHN vs. JUAN
You have two families: "John Legal" and "Juan Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children, and live in Arizona ..

John Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Juan Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 in cash "under the table".

Ready? Now pay attention....

John Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; John Legal now has $31,231.00.

Juan Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200 per year.Juan Illegal pays no taxes. Juan Illegal now has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. John Legal now has $24,031.00.

Juan Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. John Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000..00 per year. John Legal now has $18,031.00.

Juan Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. John Legal now has 9,631.00.

Juan Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Juan Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

John Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. John Legal now has $7,231.00.

Juan Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

John Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..

Juan Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..

John Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Juan Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

John Legal's and Juan Illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. John Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Juan Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Juan Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. John Legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age, John Legal's kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though John has been paying for state schools through his taxes, while Juan Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a minority.

John Legal and Juan Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but John paid for them and Juan did not pay.

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens... You are part of the problem! Go to numbersusa on the web to make your voice heard today!

 

[TN12Valve]

 

[Rohlingoffroad]

THANK YOU I see there are some more ppl that feels like me !

 

[whiskeymakin]

Our generation is screwed....25-40ish and our kids

 

[grcthird]

I saw this yesterday:

There are an estimated 20 million illegals living here in the U.S. This is a fact that we are going to have to live with for some time to come. But what if the illegals all left and went back across the border?

Here are some statistics for you:

In the original 2012 post by someone named Tommy Ester, the following statistics were revealed:

California

In California, there are an estimated 3.5 million illegal aliens. If they were all to leave, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons.

Colorado

In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grand children would move back across the border. That would save Colorado an estimated $2 to $7 billion annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs. 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone. Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens.

Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals. Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% dropout/flunk rate because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our grid locked cities in Colorado. Denver's 4% unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

Florida, Illinois, etc

In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and english.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

A rebounding Economy

The U.S. Economy would rebound. Employer would be hiring American workers at a living wage. Everybody would be paying their fair share of taxes. So much of the wages that are earned by the illegals are not reported to the IRS. No taxes collected. It's estimated that this would increase the Taxes collected by $401 billion dollars. This would also result in the taxes collected by State and local treasuries would increase as well.

What about schools?

Let's move on to the schools and the impact this would have on them. Currently our school systems must contend with over 100 different languages. This degrades the quality of the education our kids are receiving.The schools would lose over 2 million kids, saving over $1.6 billion spent on free breakfast and other assistance programs.

Crime and prisons

We would lose over 500,000 illegal criminals in our prison systems. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 million of drugs annually. In cities like L.A. 20,000 members of the 18th street gang would disappear from their streets.

20 Million illegals leaving would free up our nations roads. Greatly reduce the pollution that gridlock causes. All automobile related deaths would drop.

Let's break this down to the reasons illegals should leave.

$14-22 Billion a year spent on welfare to illegals.
$3.5 Billion a year on Medicaid for illegals.
$12 Billion a year spent on primary and secondary education for illegals.
$27 Billion a year for the education of American born children of illegals aka "Anchor Babies."
$3 Million spent per day to imprison illegals in our prisons. $1.2 Billion a year.
28% of all prison inmates are illegals.

$190 Billion spent for social services for illegals.

$200 Billion in suppressed wages of American citizens.

The crime rate is 2.8X higher than that of white non-illegal aliens.

Approximately 19,000 illegals from terrorist states crossed in 2005. Over 10,000 were from middle Eastern countries.

Millions of pounds Meth, Cocaine, Heroin, Crack, and Marijuana cross into the U.S. annually across our southern border.

Illegal Aliens sent over $65 Billion tax free funds back home across the border.

Over one million sex crimes are committed by illegal aliens annually.

Do the numbers scare you yet?

Pretty frightening statistics, if you ask me. These numbers are staggering! Unfortunately there is no end in sight. Don't look for any help on this crisis from our current administration. This administration has seen fit to give the illegal aliens the rights we enjoy as LEGAL citizens on this country.

This crisis is epidemic and getting worse. It affects all 50 states, not just the southern border ones. It has spread to all corners and to every small town. We have the power of the vote. The power of the pen. We have the power of public protest. The time is now for action. Study your government officials' records and where they stand.

If not 100% behind our Constitution and the Citizens of this country, then vote them out. They serve us. We hired them. We can fire them. You have your Constitutional right every 2 years to renew their contract with you or in the infamous words of Donald Trump, "You're Fired!"

Here is one more statistic for you.

Over 82% of American citizens want our borders secure.

 

[joho75287]

Agree 150%!!!!

 

[onepieceatatime]

Re:

To get them out and keep them out you need to kill all the programs that bring them here in the first place.

 

[TBItoy]

Re:

To get them out and keep them out you need to kill all the programs that bring them here in the first place.

Exactly.

It's no longer the "Land of Opportunity", it's the "Land of Handouts and Free Rides"

 

[onepieceatatime]

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And that works for illegal aliens and us citizens. If we didn't have so many citizens that would rather collect handouts than work for a landscape company or construction we would have so many open jobs for mexican labor. People are so lazy these days they won't even sit in a truck and hold a steering wheel and get paid to do it. Somalians are taking over the trucking industry. Seems like every trucking company in the nation is hiring but to many people are "too good" to drive a truck.

 

[pjprice]

Re:

And that works for illegal aliens and us citizens. If we didn't have so many citizens that would rather collect handouts than work for a landscape company or construction we would have so many open jobs for mexican labor. People are so lazy these days they won't even sit in a truck and hold a steering wheel and get paid to do it. Somalians are taking over the trucking industry. Seems like every trucking company in the nation is hiring but to many people are "too good" to drive a truck.

That's as true as anything. Many people are too good to go work outside. Too good to go frame a house, pour concrete, plant some bushes or lay sod, etc. Then they complain about not having job opportunities because illegals "take all the jobs". I don't agree with illegals being welcomed with open arms into America by any means, but if Americans weren't so lazy and were willing to get off the couch and get outside and work, this wouldn't be near the issue that it is.