The Luke
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Thought I'd post up a review of a potential trade that I almost had recently with hstanford on here. He posted on my for sale thread offering me an 04 ranger for my zj.
Keep in mind, some of the driving is my own damn fault, I should have known better. Also limited due to my own trailer complications.
Lengthy version:
We worked out a deal to meet halfway(lawrenceburg, tn). The plan was for me to trailer jeep there, him drive there, if we like each others vehicles, then I would deliver the rest of the way. I spoke with him the night before the deal and he said we were on and he would meet at walmart in lawrenceburg at 10am. So I head out in the morning, jeep in tow, get there at 10, he was a no call, no show. At 11:15 he text me and said that he had been called into work that night and was cleaning up an overturned truck. I told him no big deal, it happens. I agreed to drop the jeep in Columbia, TN at my father in laws place and that he would come down wed. of that week to pick it up. He also said he would bring $200 for my wasted fuel that day. Wed comes, he called and rescheduled, for the following sunday. Sunday morning rolls around, he texts and says he has a flat trailer tire and he will try to be there as soon as he can. So I head down to Columbia, I didn't mind the drive because regardless of the deal I would have to go down to get the jeep. I wait a few hours, no call, no show. So, I load the jeep up and start to head home. Almost 3 hours after he was supposed to be there he finally calls and claims he left his phone in the truck and has been searching for a tire. So I decide to give him one last chance. I drop the jeep one more time at Ridered's house(mainly due to a blowout on the trailer). He claims he will come the following wed. because he gets paid. He says he will bring me boot for my troubles and he will haul the jeep home.
Throughout the course of all this we had discussed both vehicles. He claimed he had just had the Ranger serviced and when I asked if it was a clean title he replied "dunno, I know it isn't a salvage title"(This should have been a red flag, but I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt).
He shows up wed night. He gets out of the truck and within a few minutes he lets me know that he spent every dime he had coming up here and that he would have to paypal me at a later date. I told him that we would cross that bridge when we came to it. He and his buddy look over the jeep with me, agree that they like it. He then let me know that the title was in fact a rebuilt title. I decide to work around that. So I look over the truck. Underneath looked good, inside looked good, motor sounded good. Then I started checking fluids. The oil was almost solid black, the coolant reservoir was bone dry and had some mud in the bottom of it, the filler neck on the radiator had mud inside it and the radiator was maybe half full. I pulled the air filter out and there was a rats nest under the air filter.
When I asked him if the truck had been sitting, he replied "only a week and a half". I ended up telling him nicely that I hated that we had gone through all that, but I was going to have to pass on the truck. He started arguing and getting defensive that my jeep had mud on the motor and on the interior, and that he didn't understand the difference?
Short version:
Got stood up
Got stood up
Promised good truck with clean title and extra boot
Showed up with no boot, rebuilt title, truck with mud in radiator and dark dark oil
He got pissed and left.
I realize there technically wasn't a final transaction. But when it comes down to it, I'm out almost $300 in fuel and have a pretty bad taste in my mouth about the entire deal. Figured I'd post up my experience with him for what it's worth.
Keep in mind, some of the driving is my own damn fault, I should have known better. Also limited due to my own trailer complications.
Lengthy version:
We worked out a deal to meet halfway(lawrenceburg, tn). The plan was for me to trailer jeep there, him drive there, if we like each others vehicles, then I would deliver the rest of the way. I spoke with him the night before the deal and he said we were on and he would meet at walmart in lawrenceburg at 10am. So I head out in the morning, jeep in tow, get there at 10, he was a no call, no show. At 11:15 he text me and said that he had been called into work that night and was cleaning up an overturned truck. I told him no big deal, it happens. I agreed to drop the jeep in Columbia, TN at my father in laws place and that he would come down wed. of that week to pick it up. He also said he would bring $200 for my wasted fuel that day. Wed comes, he called and rescheduled, for the following sunday. Sunday morning rolls around, he texts and says he has a flat trailer tire and he will try to be there as soon as he can. So I head down to Columbia, I didn't mind the drive because regardless of the deal I would have to go down to get the jeep. I wait a few hours, no call, no show. So, I load the jeep up and start to head home. Almost 3 hours after he was supposed to be there he finally calls and claims he left his phone in the truck and has been searching for a tire. So I decide to give him one last chance. I drop the jeep one more time at Ridered's house(mainly due to a blowout on the trailer). He claims he will come the following wed. because he gets paid. He says he will bring me boot for my troubles and he will haul the jeep home.
Throughout the course of all this we had discussed both vehicles. He claimed he had just had the Ranger serviced and when I asked if it was a clean title he replied "dunno, I know it isn't a salvage title"(This should have been a red flag, but I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt).
He shows up wed night. He gets out of the truck and within a few minutes he lets me know that he spent every dime he had coming up here and that he would have to paypal me at a later date. I told him that we would cross that bridge when we came to it. He and his buddy look over the jeep with me, agree that they like it. He then let me know that the title was in fact a rebuilt title. I decide to work around that. So I look over the truck. Underneath looked good, inside looked good, motor sounded good. Then I started checking fluids. The oil was almost solid black, the coolant reservoir was bone dry and had some mud in the bottom of it, the filler neck on the radiator had mud inside it and the radiator was maybe half full. I pulled the air filter out and there was a rats nest under the air filter.
When I asked him if the truck had been sitting, he replied "only a week and a half". I ended up telling him nicely that I hated that we had gone through all that, but I was going to have to pass on the truck. He started arguing and getting defensive that my jeep had mud on the motor and on the interior, and that he didn't understand the difference?
Short version:
Got stood up
Got stood up
Promised good truck with clean title and extra boot
Showed up with no boot, rebuilt title, truck with mud in radiator and dark dark oil
He got pissed and left.
I realize there technically wasn't a final transaction. But when it comes down to it, I'm out almost $300 in fuel and have a pretty bad taste in my mouth about the entire deal. Figured I'd post up my experience with him for what it's worth.
