Trump for prez?

[86chevota]

Tony are you a killary lover deep down??? Has JD turned you to the dark side??

 

[tonybolton]

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I jus like funny piktarz....I'm pretty simple folk.

 

[RebelRider]

It's been entertaining to read these posts but. . . . . . If Hillary wins because enough boneheads said and did that, in that campfire conversation would you openly exclaim that you voted that way? Look what that vote will cause. You don't punish anyone but yourself and other Americans.

Maybe you're just kidding I hope

Edit: ok so we don't know each other, I don't really mean to call you a bonehead at the same time not wanting to dance around a hard issue.

On a light note, are there any 2008-2012 election threads on here? Would be interesting to see the general morale at that time on this board

This is a great point. I'm sure I'll catch **** for this, but.......

I look at these third party voters that bust up in every Trump conversation like I do atheist. They seem to have to let you know their candidate/beliefs, even know nobody asked them or even cared. It's like they think it's something that sets them aside from everyone else and makes them smarter.......I'm in no way saying libertarians are atheist, but they have sort of the same mindset.

Flame away....

 

[onepieceatatime]

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I was joking. Gary Johnson and that girl being on the ballad only hurt Trump!

I'd bet Jill Stein takes away a lot more votes from Hillary than she does from Trump and Gary Johnson gets as many votes from Democrats as he does Republicans so it doesn't actually hurt Trump. I'm not sure why the Libertarian party doesn't push this idea more, but if they get 5% of the vote general vote than they get minor party status in the next election and recieve federal funding. Getting a third party more involved in the game can only help us all.

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[TacomaJD]

This is a great point. I'm sure I'll catch **** for this, but.......

I look at these third party voters that bust up in every Trump conversation like I do atheist. They seem to have to let you know their candidate/beliefs, even know nobody asked them or even cared. It's like they think it's something that sets them aside from everyone else and makes them smarter.......I'm in no way saying libertarians are atheist, but they have sort of the same mindset.

Flame away....

Two things I hate in life, hot beer and those who leave no room for any opinion other than their own. You have all the answers! That, to me, makes you about as cool as white letter tires.

 

[tonybolton]

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Oh lawdy.....

http://youtu.be/2By7ReLS5aA

 

[RebelRider]

Two things I hate in life, hot beer and those who leave no room for any opinion other than their own. You have all the answers! That, to me, makes you about as cool as white letter tires.

Case in point. Taking my statement out of context of course. I do care about other people's opinions. However you look at the Americans situation, there are only 2 viable candidates. It is what it is whether you like it or not. Now I know this isn't "leaving room for your opinion", but voting 3rd party will just prolong the Obama destruction of America for 4-8 years. Yes, maybe it is "showing" the 2 party system you don't care for it and want alternatives. With an 8% vote, that could take 20+ years to even come around. Do you think this country has that long before destruction? Oh wait, I'm not supposed to let other opinions in. From the beginning of this thread, you have seemed like a lost voter looking for a place to go. A couple people mention GJ and you jump on the band wagon. It sure didn't take much. If your going to throw your vote away, write in someone like Ron Paul. It won't matter anyway. GJ is not a true libertarian. He's already said several times he has no chance but wants to take as many votes away from the other candidates as possible. The majority of us really appreciate the temper tantrum. We "The Majority" did not choose him. Only 8% did. So don't be a baby and try to tear the two candidates that won down to prove a point just because the 8% is smarter than everyone else.
Now go back to posting pictures of the beer you drank with breakfast this morning.

 

[kmcminn]

Case in point. Taking my statement out of context of course. I do care about other people's opinions. However you look at the Americans situation, there are only 2 viable candidates. It is what it is whether you like it or not. Now I know this isn't "leaving room for your opinion", but voting 3rd party will just prolong the Obama destruction of America for 4-8 years. Yes, maybe it is "showing" the 2 party system you don't care for it and want alternatives. With an 8% vote, that could take 20+ years to even come around. Do you think this country has that long before destruction. Oh wait, I'm not supposed to let other opinions in. From the beginning of this thread, you have seemed like a lost voter looking for a place to go. A couple people mention GJ and you jump on the band wagon. It sure didn't take much. If your going to throw your vote away, write in someone like Ron Paul. It won't matter anyway. GJ is not a true libertarian. He's already said several times he has no chance but wants to take as many votes away from the other candidates as possible. The majority of us really appreciate the temper tantrum. We "The Majority" did not choose him. Only 8% did. So don't be a baby and try to tear the two candidates that won down to prove a point just because the 8% is smarter then everyone else.
Now go back to posting pictures of the beer you drank with breakfast this morning.

 

[86chevota]

Case in point. Taking my statement out of context of course. I do care about other people's opinions. However you look at the Americans situation, there are only 2 viable candidates. It is what it is whether you like it or not. Now I know this isn't "leaving room for your opinion", but voting 3rd party will just prolong the Obama destruction of America for 4-8 years. Yes, maybe it is "showing" the 2 party system you don't care for it and want alternatives. With an 8% vote, that could take 20+ years to even come around. Do you think this country has that long before destruction? Oh wait, I'm not supposed to let other opinions in. From the beginning of this thread, you have seemed like a lost voter looking for a place to go. A couple people mention GJ and you jump on the band wagon. It sure didn't take much. If your going to throw your vote away, write in someone like Ron Paul. It won't matter anyway. GJ is not a true libertarian. He's already said several times he has no chance but wants to take as many votes away from the other candidates as possible. The majority of us really appreciate the temper tantrum. We "The Majority" did not choose him. Only 8% did. So don't be a baby and try to tear the two candidates that won down to prove a point just because the 8% is smarter than everyone else.
Now go back to posting pictures of the beer you drank with breakfast this morning.

**** I like the **** out of you! Not like JD likes men but you get the picture.

 

[86chevota]

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Oh lawdy.....

http://youtu.be/2By7ReLS5aA

 

[86chevota]

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I jus like funny piktarz....I'm pretty simple folk.

Tony you find some funny ****

 

[onepieceatatime]

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Case in point. Taking my statement out of context of course. I do care about other people's opinions. However you look at the Americans situation, there are only 2 viable candidates. It is what it is whether you like it or not. Now I know this isn't "leaving room for your opinion", but voting 3rd party will just prolong the Obama destruction of America for 4-8 years. Yes, maybe it is "showing" the 2 party system you don't care for it and want alternatives. With an 8% vote, that could take 20+ years to even come around. Do you think this country has that long before destruction? Oh wait, I'm not supposed to let other opinions in. From the beginning of this thread, you have seemed like a lost voter looking for a place to go. A couple people mention GJ and you jump on the band wagon. It sure didn't take much. If your going to throw your vote away, write in someone like Ron Paul. It won't matter anyway. GJ is not a true libertarian. He's already said several times he has no chance but wants to take as many votes away from the other candidates as possible. The majority of us really appreciate the temper tantrum. We "The Majority" did not choose him. Only 8% did. So don't be a baby and try to tear the two candidates that won down to prove a point just because the 8% is smarter than everyone else.
Now go back to posting pictures of the beer you drank with breakfast this morning.

There's a lot more that needs fixed than what's happened over the last year. There's a lot more to blame than Obama. The 2 partys have been going back and forth leading us away from the Constitution clear back to the birth of the Republican party with Ole **** bag Abe Lincoln. The Republicans and the Democrats don't show any sign of wanting to slow that down. The only way to get them to quit is to show them that they can be replaced. Will it happen this year? More than likely not although nothing is impossible in this country. We put a man on the moon and we gained our Independence from the most powerful empire in the world at the time. Great things don't happen over night. To say it's a waste of a vote to vote for such a change because it won't fix things over night is like saying that you shouldn't start saving money for retirement at an early age because it takes way too much money to retire and $50 bucks a month ain't a drop in the bucket. I had to explain this to my last boss 4 years ago. He had the biggest wrecker company in the state of Ohio and he started with one truck and worked his way up. What if someone told him when he started that one truck wasn't **** and that he had no chance of being successful later in life because he didn't have enough to compete with the other big companys. He could've taken the easy route and just drove for someone else but that's not how ya better things. The same thought can be applied to supporting a third party. 4 years ago I was told I was wasting a vote but I got probably a dozen people to do it as well. There's more support this year than there was then so those people must've talked to other people in that 4 years and 4 years from now I'm sure itll get even better because it looks like we're gonna stay on the same road. Nothing changes if nothing changes.

Pretty sure I've posted this before but this quote always keeps me feeling positive.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men."

Samuel Adams.

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[RebelRider]

There's a lot more that needs fixed than what's happened over the last year. There's a lot more to blame than Obama. The 2 partys have been going back and forth leading us away from the Constitution clear back to the birth of the Republican party with Ole **** bag Abe Lincoln. The Republicans and the Democrats don't show any sign of wanting to slow that down. The only way to get them to quit is to show them that they can be replaced. Will it happen this year? More than likely not although nothing is impossible in this country. We put a man on the moon and we gained our Independence from the most powerful empire in the world at the time. Great things don't happen over night. To say it's a waste of a vote to vote for such a change because it won't fix things over night is like saying that you shouldn't start saving money for retirement at an early age because it takes way too much money to retire and $50 bucks a month ain't a drop in the bucket. I had to explain this to my last boss 4 years ago. He had the biggest wrecker company in the state of Ohio and he started with one truck and worked his way up. What if someone told him when he started that one truck wasn't **** and that he had no chance of being successful later in life because he didn't have enough to compete with the other big companys. He could've taken the easy route and just drove for someone else but that's not how ya better things. The same thought can be applied to supporting a third party. 4 years ago I was told I was wasting a vote but I got probably a dozen people to do it as well. There's more support this year than there was then so those people must've talked to other people in that 4 years and 4 years from now I'm sure itll get even better because it looks like we're gonna stay on the same road. Nothing changes if nothing changes.

Pretty sure I've posted this before but this quote always keeps me feeling positive.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men."

Samuel Adams.

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Point taken, but you are still working against what the majority has voted for. They did not vote GJ in. I was a Ted Cruz guy until he did not get the nomination, so him and his party threw a fit to try to weasel him in. Am I still voting for him? Of course not, and after the BS he pulled, he will never get a vote from me again. As much as you may disagree, the libertarian party agrees with more conservative views than it does liberal views. In result, in my opinion GJ will pull more of our votes than he will Hillary. This is already a very tight race (even though the media has already awarded Hillary), so the majority of like minded people as us really appreciate y'all spending the time to destroy our chances of getting a gun grabbing liberal out of power. Yes, I know Trump isn't the best out of everyone in the country, but he is our only option. When Hillary appoints Liberal SCJ, please look back at the lesson you "taught" us tax paying Americans as our rights go down the drain. IMO, this election is more important than any I have ever experienced in my 33 years. So do what you think you need to do. I can't stop you or sway your vote.

 

[Cubby]

The best I can tell we have two terrible candidates and you could/will go wrong with either but, two wrongs don't make Gary Johnson right...

 

[RebelRider]

The best I can tell we have two terrible candidates and you could/will go wrong with either but, two wrongs don't make Gary Johnson right...

For the love of God, if you MUST vote third party, write in a true libertarian! GJ is not.

 

[onepieceatatime]

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The Supreme Court doesn't do their job anyways just look at how shredded our Constitution is now. Trump wouldn't pick a Judge that truly believes in the Constitution because he doesn't either and a good judge would shut down his idea of suing the media if they say something negative about him, or his idea that the government should be able to put people on a list without due process and deny their right to by a firearm. He's even said he thought New Yorks old "stop and frisk" tactic was a good idea and that's one case that the Supreme Court did do their job and ruled something unconstitutional. So to vote Trump because of the Supreme Court doesn't make sense to me. People call the Clinton gun grabbers, well until he ran for President Trump used to agree with Bill's assault weapons ban. Who says he won't change his mind?
Trying to change things at the Presidential level is probably gonna be the hardest way to do things but I'll try. I think real change will come through state nullification of unjust laws, kind of like you see in Colorado with marijuana.

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[onepieceatatime]

bring a little funny back into this conversation.

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[lowbudgetjunk]

Bill Clinton looks like death these days. I bet his **** wouldn't get hard with a whole bottle of Viagras. I bet another puff on the Lewinsky flavored Cuban wouldn't even help that shriveled sausage. I bet he does make a hood house husband though. Being vegan and doing the dishes seems about right for him these days.

 

[RebelRider]

The Supreme Court doesn't do their job anyways just look at how shredded our Constitution is now. Trump wouldn't pick a Judge that truly believes in the Constitution because he doesn't either and a good judge would shut down his idea of suing the media if they say something negative about him, or his idea that the government should be able to put people on a list without due process and deny their right to by a firearm. He's even said he thought New Yorks old "stop and frisk" tactic was a good idea and that's one case that the Supreme Court did do their job and ruled something unconstitutional. So to vote Trump because of the Supreme Court doesn't make sense to me. People call the Clinton gun grabbers, well until he ran for President Trump used to agree with Bill's assault weapons ban. Who says he won't change his mind?
Trying to change things at the Presidential level is probably gonna be the hardest way to do things but I'll try. I think real change will come through state nullification of unjust laws, kind of like you see in Colorado with marijuana.

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On the other hand, GJ has already made comments about open borders and other liberal leanings. So if a cold front hits hell, and he's elected, how do we know he will keep his "libertarian" views. We do not.

At this point, we should just agree to disagree. I think we have 2 choices, you think we have 3. So be it......you won't convince me and I won't convince you......

 

[TacomaJD]

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Ted Nugent 2016!