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The width of a trail equalling 2 rigs is not caused by full size rigs. It's caused by rigs not capable of going over an obstacle and driving around it. I have seen this by zuks, jeeps, yotas, and full size. I rock a full size and not trail has ever been widened by me. When you have 2 or 3...

Time... Don't have time to put one in from now until the event. If they are sticklers for that then looks like I am not running.

how serious are the rules about the battery cutoff switch? If I show up with just a standard column ignition and a battery in the cab would they turn me away?

I would prefer more technical. But that's because my rig is slow. :looser: A full size rig with rockwells and 44's doesn't like the air that much. I am down for tuff trucks. Any pics from last year or something?

anybody have more information on the tuff truck course? A video/picture of the previous course would be good. I am just wondering if there are rocks/hills etc. I am assuming you can enter just tuff truck and not mud, and visa versa. Looks like I will have to wire in a battery cut off switch...

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I think maybe you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I have ran every trail at elbe now. Been there 4x's in 4 months. I have driven down every turn and trail I could find. There are several spots that challenge my rig. I love that rock crawl at the top of rainier vista. The guys that...

It would be nice to see some larger rocks strategically placed. Instead of just throwing all the rocks into a conglomerate so you just diff dodge through them. I just want to get some people on board to build a really hardcore trail at elbe, but I guess that's an unpopular proposition with...

damn, touchy much? Actually I was at the work party at elbe in september and helped build a water runoff barrier.

Thanks for your response. I would love to help get involved with events. I definitely will keep an eye out and volunteer at any that pop up. Infact one of my events in Arizona got into Peterson's 4 wheel and offroad a few years back. It was a lot of fun. I above all know what it's like to...

wow, this thread has officially been hijacked as to why I shouldn't run a full size here in washington. Been told that since my first k5 blazer when I was 16. I don't care for jeeps, toyota's or samurai's but I can see why people like running them. I appreciate a well built buggy (emphasize...

ha ha, this thread is becomming funny. Although I run a blazer on 44's my vehicle is not a big gay mud truck, my rig is actually very balanced, and is lower than the naysayers think. Infact I stuffed rockwells under there with only 6" of lift, and still flexes. I have a 203/205 doubler with...

Technically I don't have a buggy, it's more of a fullsize chevy truggy that used to be a k5 blazer. I asked where the buggy guys wheel just because I thought that would get the most response and everyone would know what I meant by difficulty. It's pretty funny the attention my rig gets on the...

Ha ha, dude I just moved from Surpise, AZ. Believe me, I miss table mesa. :mad:

Sorry but what is bend? And where is that located? I know a little about goldendale just because we rock does events there but I wasn't aware they had anything open to the public.

wow thanks for all the replies. Just got done looking up these places on youtube. That stuff at raush creek looks mild to me. The crushers trails/browns camp down in tillamook state forest looks great. I live way south of Seattle so getting up to Canada is going to be really hard. I can't...

dang, here is the video I tried to embed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeyECDIa2ZE

hey 44's can still crawl. :flipoff: I definitely like elbe. I think its a cool fun place, but since the trails are basically made and maintained by a lot of guys on here I am just surprised that one trail hasn't been turned into the toughest trail in the state. It seams like the manpower is...

So I am somewhat new to washington state. I have lived here 4 months. Only been out to elbe a few times, and although that place is fun, I still have a feeling of wanting more difficult trails. *And my idea of a good trail is not a mud hole*. I am also aware of funny/moon rocks and I have...