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Air shock / coilover / anti rock bar help question????
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<blockquote data-quote="TacomaJD" data-source="post: 261398" data-attributes="member: 1780"><p>Bear with me, I'm gonna try avoiding being lengthy with this. </p><p></p><p>I want to <strong>FIX</strong> this Toyota from leaning like a sumbitch when you turn on the trails in 4wd (locked fr/rr with flanges). The leaning while turning isn't as bad as it leaning really bad while driving across simple uneven terrain. It makes it very possible to flip over on **** you shouldn't ever have to worry about flipping on when paired with the high belly pan clearance (center of gravity). </p><p></p><p>This probably will not get fixed anytime soon, as I'm sure the resolution will not be a cheap mod and my pockets ain't as deep as most of you cats :****: SO, I want to figure out the best and right way to fix the problem and I'm gonna start saving my pennies. I would really like to avoid putting an anti rock bar on it if possible, but if that's what it takes, I'll go that route. </p><p></p><p>*I've wondered about adding nitrogen to the 16" Fox air shocks on it now, but from what I read, all that will affect is the ride height....which is perfect now and does not need to be tampered with.</p><p></p><p>*If an anti rock bar ends up being the best route, do they affect or limit articulation/travel or pose any other unseen problems/limitations?</p><p></p><p>*I've also heard the topic of the 4 link bars' geometry being off causing the suspension to unload incorrectly....if indeed that is so, I'm not modifying any of that, so I need a secondary solution.</p><p></p><p>*Lastly, what's the likelihood of coilovers being the answer? If so, I will buy a set of King 16" Coilovers and be done with it and be happy. I want to make sure somehow that is the answer first before I spend $1,000+ on a pair though. Per downsouthmotorsports.com, when ordering a complete set of King Coilovers, it looks like they valve them and select spring rate best suited for your application before they ship them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also make note, the front end is leaf sprung and has long bump stops in order to keep the 39" BFG's out of the fender well and anything else...so when climbing up something at an angled approach like the picture below, it is expected to throw the chassis due to limited up-travel on the front suspension. BUT it leans near this bad just normal trail riding on uneven terrain and while turning on flat trails in 4wd locked fr/rr. </p><p></p><p><img src="http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll133.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Any info or links to any literature will be appreciated, I have read into air shocks and coilovers a decent bit, but I'm sure there's still tons of literature that I've yet to find. Here are some pics to show belly clearance, 4 link detail, etc.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll128.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll142.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll101.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>A good look at the link bars <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies2/Oscar.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="molaugh" title="Oscar molaugh" data-shortname="molaugh" /></p><p><img src="http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll106.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TacomaJD, post: 261398, member: 1780"] Bear with me, I'm gonna try avoiding being lengthy with this. I want to [b]FIX[/b] this Toyota from leaning like a sumbitch when you turn on the trails in 4wd (locked fr/rr with flanges). The leaning while turning isn't as bad as it leaning really bad while driving across simple uneven terrain. It makes it very possible to flip over on **** you shouldn't ever have to worry about flipping on when paired with the high belly pan clearance (center of gravity). This probably will not get fixed anytime soon, as I'm sure the resolution will not be a cheap mod and my pockets ain't as deep as most of you cats :****: SO, I want to figure out the best and right way to fix the problem and I'm gonna start saving my pennies. I would really like to avoid putting an anti rock bar on it if possible, but if that's what it takes, I'll go that route. *I've wondered about adding nitrogen to the 16" Fox air shocks on it now, but from what I read, all that will affect is the ride height....which is perfect now and does not need to be tampered with. *If an anti rock bar ends up being the best route, do they affect or limit articulation/travel or pose any other unseen problems/limitations? *I've also heard the topic of the 4 link bars' geometry being off causing the suspension to unload incorrectly....if indeed that is so, I'm not modifying any of that, so I need a secondary solution. *Lastly, what's the likelihood of coilovers being the answer? If so, I will buy a set of King 16" Coilovers and be done with it and be happy. I want to make sure somehow that is the answer first before I spend $1,000+ on a pair though. Per downsouthmotorsports.com, when ordering a complete set of King Coilovers, it looks like they valve them and select spring rate best suited for your application before they ship them. Also make note, the front end is leaf sprung and has long bump stops in order to keep the 39" BFG's out of the fender well and anything else...so when climbing up something at an angled approach like the picture below, it is expected to throw the chassis due to limited up-travel on the front suspension. BUT it leans near this bad just normal trail riding on uneven terrain and while turning on flat trails in 4wd locked fr/rr. [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll133.jpg[/IMG] Any info or links to any literature will be appreciated, I have read into air shocks and coilovers a decent bit, but I'm sure there's still tons of literature that I've yet to find. Here are some pics to show belly clearance, 4 link detail, etc. [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll128.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll142.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll101.jpg[/IMG] A good look at the link bars molaugh [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii54/snorkeledrubicon/84%20Toyota%20Crawler/LastFallForAll106.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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