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<blockquote data-quote="patooyee" data-source="post: 455895" data-attributes="member: 483"><p>I generally agree there, and it is what I would probably do, but I don't think its that simple for your average black person. I think the average black justice system experience is vastly different than ours. For a black person if you put your hands up and comply, here is almost certainly what will happen:</p><p></p><p>- You will be discriminated against in a court of law.</p><p>- You will not be able to afford a decent attorney.</p><p>- You will be assigned a public defender, someone who is the dumbest law school drop out and couldn't get any better job, and probably has shady behind the scenes deals with all of the judges.</p><p>- You will be caught up in the system for the rest of your life most likely.</p><p>- If you have kids your ability to see them and be their father will be greatly diminished, if not completely eliminated, long into their adulthood. (This is a big one for me. If someone told me they were going to eliminate my ability to be a father to my daughter I would kill them without hesitation and with ZERO regret whatsoever, badge or no badge. Without her my life is not worth living.)</p><p>- Your ability to earn for your family will be permanently destroyed, you will never have a decent job again.</p><p>- What little money you do make will all go toward legal fees for at least the next 10-15 years, possibly the rest of your life. You may never get out from under that financial burden.</p><p>- If you do somehow manage to stay out of prison, which isn't likely, your overall quality of life will be very low. Probably so low that you will wish you were dead.</p><p></p><p>You have tons of friends, family, people you know who have all been affected in this way. The vast majority of people you know who get arrested end up with these results. Chances of any other outcome are infinitesimal, probably even lower than the chances of successfully getting away if you resist or run. This isn't a theoretical possibility. It is a realistic probability. You see it day in and day out. It happens to people you know, people in your neighborhood, people you are related to.</p><p></p><p>Or you can d fend yourself and hope for the best. If you read what I typed above and believe it, put yourself in their shoes, know that the above is certain. Resisting becomes a much more logical option than it is for a white person IMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="patooyee, post: 455895, member: 483"] I generally agree there, and it is what I would probably do, but I don't think its that simple for your average black person. I think the average black justice system experience is vastly different than ours. For a black person if you put your hands up and comply, here is almost certainly what will happen: - You will be discriminated against in a court of law. - You will not be able to afford a decent attorney. - You will be assigned a public defender, someone who is the dumbest law school drop out and couldn't get any better job, and probably has shady behind the scenes deals with all of the judges. - You will be caught up in the system for the rest of your life most likely. - If you have kids your ability to see them and be their father will be greatly diminished, if not completely eliminated, long into their adulthood. (This is a big one for me. If someone told me they were going to eliminate my ability to be a father to my daughter I would kill them without hesitation and with ZERO regret whatsoever, badge or no badge. Without her my life is not worth living.) - Your ability to earn for your family will be permanently destroyed, you will never have a decent job again. - What little money you do make will all go toward legal fees for at least the next 10-15 years, possibly the rest of your life. You may never get out from under that financial burden. - If you do somehow manage to stay out of prison, which isn't likely, your overall quality of life will be very low. Probably so low that you will wish you were dead. You have tons of friends, family, people you know who have all been affected in this way. The vast majority of people you know who get arrested end up with these results. Chances of any other outcome are infinitesimal, probably even lower than the chances of successfully getting away if you resist or run. This isn't a theoretical possibility. It is a realistic probability. You see it day in and day out. It happens to people you know, people in your neighborhood, people you are related to. Or you can d fend yourself and hope for the best. If you read what I typed above and believe it, put yourself in their shoes, know that the above is certain. Resisting becomes a much more logical option than it is for a white person IMHO. [/QUOTE]
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