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<blockquote data-quote="hawker" data-source="post: 1280082" data-attributes="member: 18808"><p>Speaking as a bike guy that primarally rides at Reiter, I would be happy keeping the existing single track trails single track, and the existing 4x4 areas open to y'all. What frusterates us is a section of trail that is built as single track, and sometimes posted "bike only", getting slowly widened into a 4x4 trail. Sorry, but 4x4 trails aren't fun to ride, and won't ever BE fun to ride for a skilled trail rider.</p><p></p><p>Wheather you like it or not, motorcycle-only single track has MUCH less impact, is MUCH more recoverable (some of the single track out at Tahuya will dissapear completly if the vegitation isn't removed by hand every few years), and easier to build. How much does it take to make bridge for a bike vs. 4x4? I want 4x4s to have fun places to play, but the facts are that 4x4 trails are harder on the environment and are of the most limited FUN (which is what this is all about right?). Saying "I want everything to be mixed use" can be viewed as saying "If I can't get what I want, I don't want anyone to play". Everyone should have a place to play that is fun for them, and there should be some kind of plan to keep it that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawker, post: 1280082, member: 18808"] Speaking as a bike guy that primarally rides at Reiter, I would be happy keeping the existing single track trails single track, and the existing 4x4 areas open to y'all. What frusterates us is a section of trail that is built as single track, and sometimes posted "bike only", getting slowly widened into a 4x4 trail. Sorry, but 4x4 trails aren't fun to ride, and won't ever BE fun to ride for a skilled trail rider. Wheather you like it or not, motorcycle-only single track has MUCH less impact, is MUCH more recoverable (some of the single track out at Tahuya will dissapear completly if the vegitation isn't removed by hand every few years), and easier to build. How much does it take to make bridge for a bike vs. 4x4? I want 4x4s to have fun places to play, but the facts are that 4x4 trails are harder on the environment and are of the most limited FUN (which is what this is all about right?). Saying "I want everything to be mixed use" can be viewed as saying "If I can't get what I want, I don't want anyone to play". Everyone should have a place to play that is fun for them, and there should be some kind of plan to keep it that way. [/QUOTE]
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