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<blockquote data-quote="DobermanRacing" data-source="post: 750989" data-attributes="member: 15299"><p>Now that your expectations have been set. Welcome to my build thread. I'm going to speed through the old stuff to get you caught up.</p><p></p><p>It's 2018.</p><p></p><p>I bought a 98 Jeep XJ after discovering Jeepspeed with the intentions of racing in Jeepspeed 2700 (35" tire class). At this point I barely owned any tools and pretty much only knew how to do oil changes and brake jobs.</p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/MA5X5Bh.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>Then I ordered a Full-Traction 6.5" long arm kit. I decided on this after seeing several other Jeepspeed XJs running it.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/5uhWajF.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>and because I have ADHD I immediately opened all the boxes in my basement.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/CRnY4zA.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>My buddy was kind enough to left me do the install in his home shop.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/WbgGD5z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>and because I didn't really have any tools or equipment I decided to go out and buy the safest jack stands known to man.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/cSUzRkc.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>also because the jeep was too tall for the jackstands i did have.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/x2dYyfn.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>It was at this point I ordered 37" tires... Which would bump us up to Jeepspeed 3700 (This sorta becomes a trend). I wanted to run 5.38s which won't fit in the 8.25. So I decided to build a 9" and found a good deal on a 79' Bronco rear axle. It was at this point I learned only low pinion D30s could run 5.38s. high pinion d30s max out at 5.13s. Whatever I went with a Yukon big bearing center section, a used Detroit, nodular daytona pinion support, 94 F150 rotors, and Speedway Motors big bore GM calipers, barnes4wd anti-wrap spring perches, and moved over the stock shock mounts.</p><p></p><p>Off to youtube it was to learn how to do gears.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/qBnN9bB.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/5jduHv5.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>After building a few more axles I can say the 9" is my favorite to setup gears in. Once the axle was done I swapped it out in the street outside my house. If I stain the new pavers I'll get murdered.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/Q3PSYsl.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>I wheeled it like this for a bit. It was a lot of fun but I also didn't have any experience wheeling anything besides local trails which was more mud than rocks or technical bits.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/WS5ZVx7.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>I entered into a small race at a Jeep dealership and took 2nd place. It involved a car crush then into a mud pit. 1 lap timed. fastest time wins.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/yAJgDFK.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>At this point I'm getting tired of the local wheelers I've met on the trails because all they like to do is go park in the woods and drink beer at the bone fire. Ya know Wranglers with D30s and 40" tires. So I started a groupchat (as of 7/22/20 we have nearly 265 members) for people in the tri-state area to find others who want to go wheeling or need help. We also have a few subs on Reddit (/r/NJ4x4, /r/PA4x4, /r/NYOffroading, /r/4x4Buddy) that were started to help others find more wheeling friends by myself and a few people in the group chat.</p><p></p><p>Steering 37s on the stock box sucked.</p><p></p><p>Off to youtube again to learn how to rebuild and port/tap the stock box for hydro-assist.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/zKJNmGj.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>I ended up buying all my supplies from Surplus Center and put together my own ram/assist kit.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/geBxKXo.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>Then I made the Full-Traction drop pitman arm double sheer. (The plugs in the pic below were temp while I was waiting for the ram)</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/eFL0fJH.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/fnp9Wad.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>This worked well for a while until I sheered 9 teeth off my d30 ring gear. So I bought an 06 F350 35 spline D60.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/RYeeLOU.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p>I ended up building this with a Barnes4wd truss/mounts, Barnes4wd crossover high steer weld on arms, welded the spider gears, and made my own trackbar, drag link, and tierod out of 1.5" OD DOM 1/4" wall, FK JMX 7/8x7/8" heims down to 3/4" high misalignment spacers and 3/4" bolts. At this point I could finally step up to 5.38s too.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/rg3qXKV.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 50%" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/C5mz3gJ.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Bob Ross approves. Also if you're wondering why these pictures are in a shop it's because I got a job as a mechanic for a year so I could have access to equipment and get some more experience wrenching. I'm originally a computer nerd. I also own a computer/electronics repair shop and I occasionally make and sell some Jeep Liberty parts.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/1ibBU4u.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>At this point it's Dec-2019. I wheel it a few times at Ruasch Creek and AOAA but I'm limited on my steering angle with the xj box so I made my own pitman arm but ended up bending it. Fed up I rip it all out and decide it's time to stop pretending I can keep this street legal. Full hydro steering it is.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/vGutzW4.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Continued in next post</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DobermanRacing, post: 750989, member: 15299"] Now that your expectations have been set. Welcome to my build thread. I'm going to speed through the old stuff to get you caught up. It's 2018. I bought a 98 Jeep XJ after discovering Jeepspeed with the intentions of racing in Jeepspeed 2700 (35" tire class). At this point I barely owned any tools and pretty much only knew how to do oil changes and brake jobs. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/MA5X5Bh.png[/IMG] Then I ordered a Full-Traction 6.5" long arm kit. I decided on this after seeing several other Jeepspeed XJs running it. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/5uhWajF.jpg[/IMG] and because I have ADHD I immediately opened all the boxes in my basement. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/CRnY4zA.jpg[/IMG] My buddy was kind enough to left me do the install in his home shop. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/WbgGD5z.jpg[/IMG] and because I didn't really have any tools or equipment I decided to go out and buy the safest jack stands known to man. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/cSUzRkc.jpg[/IMG] also because the jeep was too tall for the jackstands i did have. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/x2dYyfn.jpg[/IMG] It was at this point I ordered 37" tires... Which would bump us up to Jeepspeed 3700 (This sorta becomes a trend). I wanted to run 5.38s which won't fit in the 8.25. So I decided to build a 9" and found a good deal on a 79' Bronco rear axle. It was at this point I learned only low pinion D30s could run 5.38s. high pinion d30s max out at 5.13s. Whatever I went with a Yukon big bearing center section, a used Detroit, nodular daytona pinion support, 94 F150 rotors, and Speedway Motors big bore GM calipers, barnes4wd anti-wrap spring perches, and moved over the stock shock mounts. Off to youtube it was to learn how to do gears. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/qBnN9bB.jpg[/IMG] [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/5jduHv5.jpg[/IMG] After building a few more axles I can say the 9" is my favorite to setup gears in. Once the axle was done I swapped it out in the street outside my house. If I stain the new pavers I'll get murdered. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/Q3PSYsl.jpg[/IMG] I wheeled it like this for a bit. It was a lot of fun but I also didn't have any experience wheeling anything besides local trails which was more mud than rocks or technical bits. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/WS5ZVx7.jpg[/IMG] I entered into a small race at a Jeep dealership and took 2nd place. It involved a car crush then into a mud pit. 1 lap timed. fastest time wins. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/yAJgDFK.jpg[/IMG] At this point I'm getting tired of the local wheelers I've met on the trails because all they like to do is go park in the woods and drink beer at the bone fire. Ya know Wranglers with D30s and 40" tires. So I started a groupchat (as of 7/22/20 we have nearly 265 members) for people in the tri-state area to find others who want to go wheeling or need help. We also have a few subs on Reddit (/r/NJ4x4, /r/PA4x4, /r/NYOffroading, /r/4x4Buddy) that were started to help others find more wheeling friends by myself and a few people in the group chat. Steering 37s on the stock box sucked. Off to youtube again to learn how to rebuild and port/tap the stock box for hydro-assist. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/zKJNmGj.jpg[/IMG] I ended up buying all my supplies from Surplus Center and put together my own ram/assist kit. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/geBxKXo.jpg[/IMG] Then I made the Full-Traction drop pitman arm double sheer. (The plugs in the pic below were temp while I was waiting for the ram) [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/eFL0fJH.jpg[/IMG] [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/fnp9Wad.png[/IMG] This worked well for a while until I sheered 9 teeth off my d30 ring gear. So I bought an 06 F350 35 spline D60. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/RYeeLOU.jpg[/IMG] I ended up building this with a Barnes4wd truss/mounts, Barnes4wd crossover high steer weld on arms, welded the spider gears, and made my own trackbar, drag link, and tierod out of 1.5" OD DOM 1/4" wall, FK JMX 7/8x7/8" heims down to 3/4" high misalignment spacers and 3/4" bolts. At this point I could finally step up to 5.38s too. [IMG width="50%"]https://i.imgur.com/rg3qXKV.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/C5mz3gJ.jpg[/IMG] Bob Ross approves. Also if you're wondering why these pictures are in a shop it's because I got a job as a mechanic for a year so I could have access to equipment and get some more experience wrenching. I'm originally a computer nerd. I also own a computer/electronics repair shop and I occasionally make and sell some Jeep Liberty parts. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/1ibBU4u.jpg[/IMG] At this point it's Dec-2019. I wheel it a few times at Ruasch Creek and AOAA but I'm limited on my steering angle with the xj box so I made my own pitman arm but ended up bending it. Fed up I rip it all out and decide it's time to stop pretending I can keep this street legal. Full hydro steering it is. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/vGutzW4.jpg[/IMG] Continued in next post [/QUOTE]
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