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<blockquote data-quote="Metal Head" data-source="post: 343497" data-attributes="member: 7407"><p>There seems to be some animosity directed towards me over some decals being made in a joint venture with me and SRRS. I came up with an idea to use some phrases that are used around the rock racing fans/racers etc. that I thought would mesh well when combined with the SRRS logo, Gas On Brain Off, Mash Yer Motor, Bring The Woopow etc. and began doing some designs. Another one I wanted to use was of course "Bounce Em If Ya Got Em" and SRRS directed me to contact Eric Hagen about it since he was using that phrase on some signs he brings to the events. Now technically as a decal business I don't have to do this. I did so because SRRS asked me to, if something is not a trademarked logo or phrase etc. I'm not violating anything, text is pretty much fair game in this business. That phrase in particular has been used for many things not just rock bouncing. Basically I talked to him about it, he didn't like the idea, claimed he created that phrase etc and of course being a business I pressed a bit to get my way, but in the end I changed the phrase and used something different. He unfriended me on Facebook and I moved on.</p><p></p><p>Now apparently there are still some hurt feelings about it lingering around, Eric had enough influence apparently to get the venture between SRRS and I shut down. They paid me for a decal design they wanted to use but I was no longer allowed to do anything with the SRRS logo. Whoever I spoke to said his "business partners" were upset. They allowed me to post my revised designs on their page which was great and I had hoped it would end there, but now my designs have been removed from the SRRS Facebook page citing "it was so far down the news feed I just removed it". Yet older posts than mine are still there, including the designs they got from me which were posted before mine. It seems like I am being effectively boycotted, and told I have a bad attitude when I tell people they don't own the rights to a phrase etc. That's just business. I don't know Eric, and I know he has a lot of friends and supporters and that is great, but I don't understand the backlash continuing after I agreed not to use that idea. All I keep hearing is that people are pissed off or upset with me. Why, because I had an idea for a decal and someone didn't like it? Then I didn't use it, and people are still pissed? I just don't get it. </p><p></p><p>I try and make decals that people like and will enjoy and that will sell, that is what business is. I don't allow friendships, rivalries, and BS to dictate whether or not I do or do not go through with an idea. I am not in business to make enemies, enemies don't buy decals. I'm a fan of rock racing/bouncing/crawling and I don't sit around thinking up ideas that will piss off the people I sell a product to. I cannot please everyone, and not everyone will like the designs I offer. I'm sorry if someone didn't like one of my ideas, or they thought I was stealing someone elses, but I DID ASK and was refused, and I dropped it and went with another phrase. If an agreement cannot be made on a joint venture and it has to be dropped, I'm not going to cry over it, it happens, sometimes things just don't work out. I have no issues essentially dropping it and staying professional in hopes maybe in the future something WILL come to fruition. Personal attacks and lingering anger about something like this is ridiculous. I'm getting really sick and tired of defending myself over it. I'd like to move on and continue to sell decals. It didn't work out with SRRS or Eric Hagen and that is fine. I have no problem with either of them. Painting me in a negative light however is unfair and childish, I've always been willing to listen and hash out any issue with anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Metal Head, post: 343497, member: 7407"] There seems to be some animosity directed towards me over some decals being made in a joint venture with me and SRRS. I came up with an idea to use some phrases that are used around the rock racing fans/racers etc. that I thought would mesh well when combined with the SRRS logo, Gas On Brain Off, Mash Yer Motor, Bring The Woopow etc. and began doing some designs. Another one I wanted to use was of course "Bounce Em If Ya Got Em" and SRRS directed me to contact Eric Hagen about it since he was using that phrase on some signs he brings to the events. Now technically as a decal business I don't have to do this. I did so because SRRS asked me to, if something is not a trademarked logo or phrase etc. I'm not violating anything, text is pretty much fair game in this business. That phrase in particular has been used for many things not just rock bouncing. Basically I talked to him about it, he didn't like the idea, claimed he created that phrase etc and of course being a business I pressed a bit to get my way, but in the end I changed the phrase and used something different. He unfriended me on Facebook and I moved on. Now apparently there are still some hurt feelings about it lingering around, Eric had enough influence apparently to get the venture between SRRS and I shut down. They paid me for a decal design they wanted to use but I was no longer allowed to do anything with the SRRS logo. Whoever I spoke to said his "business partners" were upset. They allowed me to post my revised designs on their page which was great and I had hoped it would end there, but now my designs have been removed from the SRRS Facebook page citing "it was so far down the news feed I just removed it". Yet older posts than mine are still there, including the designs they got from me which were posted before mine. It seems like I am being effectively boycotted, and told I have a bad attitude when I tell people they don't own the rights to a phrase etc. That's just business. I don't know Eric, and I know he has a lot of friends and supporters and that is great, but I don't understand the backlash continuing after I agreed not to use that idea. All I keep hearing is that people are pissed off or upset with me. Why, because I had an idea for a decal and someone didn't like it? Then I didn't use it, and people are still pissed? I just don't get it. I try and make decals that people like and will enjoy and that will sell, that is what business is. I don't allow friendships, rivalries, and BS to dictate whether or not I do or do not go through with an idea. I am not in business to make enemies, enemies don't buy decals. I'm a fan of rock racing/bouncing/crawling and I don't sit around thinking up ideas that will piss off the people I sell a product to. I cannot please everyone, and not everyone will like the designs I offer. I'm sorry if someone didn't like one of my ideas, or they thought I was stealing someone elses, but I DID ASK and was refused, and I dropped it and went with another phrase. If an agreement cannot be made on a joint venture and it has to be dropped, I'm not going to cry over it, it happens, sometimes things just don't work out. I have no issues essentially dropping it and staying professional in hopes maybe in the future something WILL come to fruition. Personal attacks and lingering anger about something like this is ridiculous. I'm getting really sick and tired of defending myself over it. I'd like to move on and continue to sell decals. It didn't work out with SRRS or Eric Hagen and that is fine. I have no problem with either of them. Painting me in a negative light however is unfair and childish, I've always been willing to listen and hash out any issue with anyone. [/QUOTE]
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