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<blockquote data-quote="426rider" data-source="post: 824307" data-attributes="member: 15984"><p>Well since you have all the answers lets just slap a 30" tire size limit on everything and call it good.:flipoff:</p><p></p><p>I really think it has more to do with overuse not oversize. Also my opinion on gorounds is that they are made mostly by people that cannot make an obstacle so they make a way around it. Not the other way around. But honestly I have no proof to back this up and I don't see that you have proof to back up your theorys either. Just saying something about tests/studies doesn't give any kind of proof.</p><p></p><p>I do think the PNW4WDA is a great place to start. They have a good base of experience with trail maint and a good relationship with land managers. I don't really understand why someone who loves the sport, spends much of their money on it, and lives in the NW wouldn't join and contribute. Granted you don't have to be apart of it to contribute to keeping our areas open but they make it alot easier with the knowledge and volunteer base they have.</p><p></p><p>But I also think that better maintenance and education can save our freedom to choose tire sizes. And what areas stay open and when they are open. Granted right now and in the past we don't have and have not had nearly enough volunteers to do this maintenance. That is where the education needs to be. We need to get everyone on the page that trail maint/upgrades need to be done constantly. Maybe these newbie runs should start out with a short project(maybe 1hr) then wheel the rest of the day. Same with group or club runs. Maybe start doing some kind of maint when you can. </p><p></p><p>Now I know we can't just go out there and do what we think is right as far as trail maint but someone posted up info on a maintenance training class and there seemed to be alot of interest. The more people trained to lead work parties the more work parties could be done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="426rider, post: 824307, member: 15984"] Well since you have all the answers lets just slap a 30" tire size limit on everything and call it good.:flipoff: I really think it has more to do with overuse not oversize. Also my opinion on gorounds is that they are made mostly by people that cannot make an obstacle so they make a way around it. Not the other way around. But honestly I have no proof to back this up and I don't see that you have proof to back up your theorys either. Just saying something about tests/studies doesn't give any kind of proof. I do think the PNW4WDA is a great place to start. They have a good base of experience with trail maint and a good relationship with land managers. I don't really understand why someone who loves the sport, spends much of their money on it, and lives in the NW wouldn't join and contribute. Granted you don't have to be apart of it to contribute to keeping our areas open but they make it alot easier with the knowledge and volunteer base they have. But I also think that better maintenance and education can save our freedom to choose tire sizes. And what areas stay open and when they are open. Granted right now and in the past we don't have and have not had nearly enough volunteers to do this maintenance. That is where the education needs to be. We need to get everyone on the page that trail maint/upgrades need to be done constantly. Maybe these newbie runs should start out with a short project(maybe 1hr) then wheel the rest of the day. Same with group or club runs. Maybe start doing some kind of maint when you can. Now I know we can't just go out there and do what we think is right as far as trail maint but someone posted up info on a maintenance training class and there seemed to be alot of interest. The more people trained to lead work parties the more work parties could be done. [/QUOTE]
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