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<blockquote data-quote="Reise" data-source="post: 1349847" data-attributes="member: 18964"><p><strong><em>I understand your concern. I have personally went after people on my land, and my neighbors land with shotgun in hand. I could not however justify raising it at them, or shooting at them unless I was in immenent danger myself. I didn't have it for threatening them. I had it as insurance if they wanted to get froggy.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>I am of the same mind set, not real certain where I got it that I was gonna ghost anybody for trespassing. I do make certain that I am not naive' in my approach to anyone on my place. But approach them I do. I have lost too much and dealt with the trash and vandalism. In the end, trespassing costs me money. ME. Same as stealing it from me. </p><p></p><p>This is getting derailed for my intent. </p><p></p><p>We are arguing deadly force, which is thread unto itself. </p><p></p><p>On trespassing, I am saying that your probably going to get someone with a shitty attitude when you get caught. Be smart, we are getting so much land taken away that as a group we cannot afford to do things that will alienate people, adding to the ranks of people who see those who wheel as satan. </p><p></p><p>I just happen to be in a position of seeing it from a land owners perspective as well as a person who loves to wheel. I work in the woods for a living, mainly for the timber industry, but I also spend allot of time in farm country during harvest. </p><p></p><p>It may <em><strong>ONLY <strong><em> a misdemeanor, but the people who deal with the trespassers, the land owners, care takers, timber companies that have had severe vandilism, farmers, all of them, THEY HATE IT. Do we as a group need to add any more fuel to the fires being built against us ? </em></strong></strong></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reise, post: 1349847, member: 18964"] [B][I]I understand your concern. I have personally went after people on my land, and my neighbors land with shotgun in hand. I could not however justify raising it at them, or shooting at them unless I was in immenent danger myself. I didn't have it for threatening them. I had it as insurance if they wanted to get froggy.[/I][/B] I am of the same mind set, not real certain where I got it that I was gonna ghost anybody for trespassing. I do make certain that I am not naive' in my approach to anyone on my place. But approach them I do. I have lost too much and dealt with the trash and vandalism. In the end, trespassing costs me money. ME. Same as stealing it from me. This is getting derailed for my intent. We are arguing deadly force, which is thread unto itself. On trespassing, I am saying that your probably going to get someone with a shitty attitude when you get caught. Be smart, we are getting so much land taken away that as a group we cannot afford to do things that will alienate people, adding to the ranks of people who see those who wheel as satan. I just happen to be in a position of seeing it from a land owners perspective as well as a person who loves to wheel. I work in the woods for a living, mainly for the timber industry, but I also spend allot of time in farm country during harvest. It may [I][B]ONLY [B][I] a misdemeanor, but the people who deal with the trespassers, the land owners, care takers, timber companies that have had severe vandilism, farmers, all of them, THEY HATE IT. Do we as a group need to add any more fuel to the fires being built against us ? [/I][/B][/B][/I] [/QUOTE]
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