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Tire size and trail damage--my prospective.
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<blockquote data-quote="TreeClimber" data-source="post: 1370089" data-attributes="member: 16101"><p>The larger tire / more damage arguement has been around for a long time. </p><p> </p><p>But add into the equation the axles. If you run a 39 inch tall tire on a STOCK width YJ, CJ, TJ, Sami, etc.... then you have an situation (other than breaking axles) whereby the rig simply cannot turn. The larger circumference of the tire will hit the vehicle as a much earlier degree of steering, simply causing it to have a body / tire interference. So how do wheelers solve the problem? By going wider. </p><p> </p><p>So now you end up with much wider axles AND larger tires. The average wheeler today is probably a FOOT wider than the trails were originally engineered to fit. YES, they do fit, but most of the trails I was running 15 and 20 years ago are now much different than they were. IS that damage? Or evolution? </p><p> </p><p>If I had to blame any one group, it'd be the tire manufactures. If the only tires available to us were in the 33 inch flavor, then there would be no need for full widths, there would be no need for Dana 60s (or Rockwells, Mogs). There would be no need for 4:1 transfer cases, or double stacked t-cases.... So much of the evolution of the industry is to be able to keep up with the advances in tire technology.</p><p> </p><p>I wheeled every area in Washington (except Reiter) with a stock width CJ on 33s, with a T18 gearbox and locked Dana 44s. Had a ton of fun. I know a few guys that never evolved from that combo, and are still wheeling and having fun.</p><p> </p><p>To address Crash's concern, Yes, it's all driver whether there is damage or not. However, technology has evolved to allow us to question other factors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TreeClimber, post: 1370089, member: 16101"] The larger tire / more damage arguement has been around for a long time. But add into the equation the axles. If you run a 39 inch tall tire on a STOCK width YJ, CJ, TJ, Sami, etc.... then you have an situation (other than breaking axles) whereby the rig simply cannot turn. The larger circumference of the tire will hit the vehicle as a much earlier degree of steering, simply causing it to have a body / tire interference. So how do wheelers solve the problem? By going wider. So now you end up with much wider axles AND larger tires. The average wheeler today is probably a FOOT wider than the trails were originally engineered to fit. YES, they do fit, but most of the trails I was running 15 and 20 years ago are now much different than they were. IS that damage? Or evolution? If I had to blame any one group, it'd be the tire manufactures. If the only tires available to us were in the 33 inch flavor, then there would be no need for full widths, there would be no need for Dana 60s (or Rockwells, Mogs). There would be no need for 4:1 transfer cases, or double stacked t-cases.... So much of the evolution of the industry is to be able to keep up with the advances in tire technology. I wheeled every area in Washington (except Reiter) with a stock width CJ on 33s, with a T18 gearbox and locked Dana 44s. Had a ton of fun. I know a few guys that never evolved from that combo, and are still wheeling and having fun. To address Crash's concern, Yes, it's all driver whether there is damage or not. However, technology has evolved to allow us to question other factors. [/QUOTE]
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