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<blockquote data-quote="NotMatt" data-source="post: 982046" data-attributes="member: 15947"><p>So, earlier this year I tore apart the rear of my YJ and lengthened the wheelbased about 6 inches with flipped factory XJ leafs. I "comp-cut" the rear corners and I had the driveline lengthened and rebuilt my anti-wrap bar and mount at the same time.</p><p> </p><p>I don't like it, and I'm thinking about going back to the factory (or close) wheelbase with wagoneer leafs or possibly RE 1444's</p><p> </p><p>Here's why:</p><p> </p><p>1. The factory rear spring hangers get hung up on everything. This could be solved by totally re-doing the spring and shackle mounts... frenching the front hangers into the frame, etc. if I so desired, but the following would still be an issue...</p><p> </p><p>2. Stock XJ rear leafs ride like **** and travel even worse when flipped backwards. Having the center pin so far offset makes them flex horrible. Even with no spring clamps and a decent shackle angle, they have very little down travel. On gravel roads and more tame trails where speed is a factor... they simply do not absord dips and bumps and potholes, and it makes going wheeling no fun because keeping up with others means I get absolutely punished by the ride.</p><p> </p><p>3. Legality... when I started this, I had decided that my Jeep was going to be a trail only rig from that point on... Honestly I'm rethinking that. There's more to that discussion, but I won't go into detail... suffice to say, my rig is still tabbed and insured, and I intend to keep it that way, and driving around a rig that has comp cut corners and barely any fender coverage, I stick out like a sore thumb. </p><p> </p><p>I guess my point to this thread was to mull over the idea and see what others thought about it. Going back to stock wheelbase for me would simply mean about $50 to shorted the rear driveline, some homemade "corner protection" that would cover up the comp cut, a pair of used wagoneer leafs or some 1444's, and some labor time to shorten up the anti-wrap bar.</p><p> </p><p>Am I out of my mind? The other option would be to find some better replacements for the stock XJ leafs that would ride and flex better, shorten the wheelbase a TAD compared to the XJ leafs, and still allow me to build some corners to get rid of the comp cut... chevy 63's maybe?</p><p> </p><p>Maybe I should just man up and 4-link the rear and REALLY make it trailer only. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p> </p><p>Anyway, hopefully some discussion can come of this thread... or maybe someone who's debating whether to do this to their wrangler will come across it and see some ideas they hadn't thought of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotMatt, post: 982046, member: 15947"] So, earlier this year I tore apart the rear of my YJ and lengthened the wheelbased about 6 inches with flipped factory XJ leafs. I "comp-cut" the rear corners and I had the driveline lengthened and rebuilt my anti-wrap bar and mount at the same time. I don't like it, and I'm thinking about going back to the factory (or close) wheelbase with wagoneer leafs or possibly RE 1444's Here's why: 1. The factory rear spring hangers get hung up on everything. This could be solved by totally re-doing the spring and shackle mounts... frenching the front hangers into the frame, etc. if I so desired, but the following would still be an issue... 2. Stock XJ rear leafs ride like **** and travel even worse when flipped backwards. Having the center pin so far offset makes them flex horrible. Even with no spring clamps and a decent shackle angle, they have very little down travel. On gravel roads and more tame trails where speed is a factor... they simply do not absord dips and bumps and potholes, and it makes going wheeling no fun because keeping up with others means I get absolutely punished by the ride. 3. Legality... when I started this, I had decided that my Jeep was going to be a trail only rig from that point on... Honestly I'm rethinking that. There's more to that discussion, but I won't go into detail... suffice to say, my rig is still tabbed and insured, and I intend to keep it that way, and driving around a rig that has comp cut corners and barely any fender coverage, I stick out like a sore thumb. I guess my point to this thread was to mull over the idea and see what others thought about it. Going back to stock wheelbase for me would simply mean about $50 to shorted the rear driveline, some homemade "corner protection" that would cover up the comp cut, a pair of used wagoneer leafs or some 1444's, and some labor time to shorten up the anti-wrap bar. Am I out of my mind? The other option would be to find some better replacements for the stock XJ leafs that would ride and flex better, shorten the wheelbase a TAD compared to the XJ leafs, and still allow me to build some corners to get rid of the comp cut... chevy 63's maybe? Maybe I should just man up and 4-link the rear and REALLY make it trailer only. :D Anyway, hopefully some discussion can come of this thread... or maybe someone who's debating whether to do this to their wrangler will come across it and see some ideas they hadn't thought of. [/QUOTE]
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