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WHO'S COMING TO THE MUDBOG? March 22
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<blockquote data-quote="Gibby1" data-source="post: 1141605" data-attributes="member: 15983"><p>A couple of things on this. You do need get a permit, just in case someone complains. You can get a temporary use permit and that activity is allowed up to twice per year. There are a LOT of hoops though. You also need to get a fire marshalls permit which includes the need to do site maps, manage fire safety etc and they WILL show up on site to check it out.</p><p></p><p>The biggest headache you'll have is wetlands. If you have a mudbog, unless it's man made, you probably are doing this in a wetland. Also being zoned agricultural is much different than having agricultural use. If your use status is agricultural there are a lot of different things you can do, specifically involving wetlands, but driving jeeps through the wetlands, doesn't count. They will make you do a full wetland study. If you have any desire to keep your land from being delineated as wetland, it's not worth the risk.</p><p></p><p>Even if the use is agriculture, and you can legally farm your wetland, should you ever choose to build something on that land or change the use, you'll be screwed for ever. </p><p></p><p>I tried to do these on my property as well... and we had to cancel an event 2weeks before it happened. The county was OK with the event as long as they were confident that it didn't involve any wetlands. I wasn't willing to spend the $20k to get everything done that they wanted.</p><p></p><p>Don't count on your attorney neighbor turning you in. There is a group that watches this website and most other off-road websites that has been turning in people like you for a couple of years now. Per the people at Pierce County, our complaint came from someone who doesn't live even in Washington and has no idea what the site is like. They found our event advertised on the internet, filed a complaint at Pierce County so they had to follow up. It's a Sierra club or similar type of org. That same year 5 events that I know of were cancelled, some were even fully permitted but they found a way to stop the event from happening.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gibby1, post: 1141605, member: 15983"] A couple of things on this. You do need get a permit, just in case someone complains. You can get a temporary use permit and that activity is allowed up to twice per year. There are a LOT of hoops though. You also need to get a fire marshalls permit which includes the need to do site maps, manage fire safety etc and they WILL show up on site to check it out. The biggest headache you'll have is wetlands. If you have a mudbog, unless it's man made, you probably are doing this in a wetland. Also being zoned agricultural is much different than having agricultural use. If your use status is agricultural there are a lot of different things you can do, specifically involving wetlands, but driving jeeps through the wetlands, doesn't count. They will make you do a full wetland study. If you have any desire to keep your land from being delineated as wetland, it's not worth the risk. Even if the use is agriculture, and you can legally farm your wetland, should you ever choose to build something on that land or change the use, you'll be screwed for ever. I tried to do these on my property as well... and we had to cancel an event 2weeks before it happened. The county was OK with the event as long as they were confident that it didn't involve any wetlands. I wasn't willing to spend the $20k to get everything done that they wanted. Don't count on your attorney neighbor turning you in. There is a group that watches this website and most other off-road websites that has been turning in people like you for a couple of years now. Per the people at Pierce County, our complaint came from someone who doesn't live even in Washington and has no idea what the site is like. They found our event advertised on the internet, filed a complaint at Pierce County so they had to follow up. It's a Sierra club or similar type of org. That same year 5 events that I know of were cancelled, some were even fully permitted but they found a way to stop the event from happening. [/QUOTE]
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