Dodge Unit Bearing 60???s

Hip · Mar 29, 2008

Few questions about a 92 dodge unit bearing 60.

I realize its not the most desireable start but its what I got:redneck:

I want to dump the passenger side vacuum disconnect and am considering the options:

Retube the entire thing from the center section out.

What about the C's?

Can you swap different outers knuckles on to the existing C's?

Will they hold up to say a 3000 lb rig with 39" Krawlers?

Was thinking about going with bobby long birfs would they fit inside these C's?

Who has the capability to machine the center housing for a seal?

or should i just pay someone to hook me up?:looser:

dirk · Mar 29, 2008

Hip said:
Few questions about a 92 dodge unit bearing 60. I realize its not the most desireable start but its what I got:redneck: I want to dump the passenger side vacuum disconnect and am considering the options: Retube the entire thing from the center section out. What about the C's? Can you swap different outers knuckles on to the existing C's? Will they hold up to say a 3000 lb rig with 39" Krawlers? Was thinking about going with bobby long birfs would they fit inside these C's? Who has the capability to machine the center housing for a seal? or should i just pay someone to hook me up?:looser:

When I talked to S&N about mine, I was told it could be used as a cheap dana 60. Things needed:

-re tube long side (S&N)
-machine work for inner axle seals (S&N)
-custom axle for long side
-re gear diff
-swap in outer knuckles/brakes/etc from Ford TTB

If you want to get fancy:

-upgrade diff to 35 spline (stock 30 spline)
-upgrade outers to 35 spline

Hip · Mar 29, 2008

dirk said:
When I talked to S&N about mine, I was told it could be used as a cheap dana 60. Things needed:

-re tube long side (S&N)
-machine work for inner axle seals (S&N)
-custom axle for long side
-re gear diff
-swap in outer knuckles/brakes/etc from Ford TTB

If you want to get fancy:

-upgrade diff to 35 spline (stock 30 spline)
-upgrade outers to 35 spline

did they give ya a ball park price?

you could pm me if ya want, just so i know how many aluiminum cans i need to find:awesomework:

jeepmauler · Mar 29, 2008

hip....a quicker way to round up some funds would be to sell any incriminating photos of wicked you may have "laying" around.

Anywho.....Do all the retube/regear etc etc....but it seams to me that a guy could leave the knuckles alone....run a Yukon inner, a Bobby joint, and have Bobby Cryo the (IIRC) 32 spline nutted stub shaft.That stub is SO short and stubby that INMO youd be hard pressed to twist it.DSI competed on that setup....minus the fancy parts...for some time.I think with good choices and proper throttle application that setup would last indefinetly.

Hip · Mar 30, 2008

jeepmauler said:
hip....a quicker way to round up some funds would be to sell any incriminating photos of wicked you may have "laying" around.

Anywho.....Do all the retube/regear etc etc....but it seams to me that a guy could leave the knuckles alone....run a Yukon inner, a Bobby joint, and have Bobby Cryo the (IIRC) 32 spline nutted stub shaft.That stub is SO short and stubby that INMO youd be hard pressed to twist it.DSI competed on that setup....minus the fancy parts...for some time.I think with good choices and proper throttle application that setup would last indefinetly.

thats my sister your talkin about there mister:redneck:

she is pretty hot huh:stirpot:

Yeah im just seeking real time info, i do drive like an old man so i was figuring the unit bearing stub would last with my style driving.

thanks for the thoughts.

jeepmauler · Mar 30, 2008

Hip said:
thats my sister your talkin about there mister:redneck:

she is pretty hot huh:stirpot:

Yeah im just seeking real time info, i do drive like an old man so i was figuring the unit bearing stub would last with my style driving.

thanks for the thoughts.

Sorry Hip....I honestly had NO idea!:looser:

she is smokin hot though:redneck:

Harvester of Sorrow · Mar 31, 2008

Hip...

I have thought about this as well for the "Po-Boy Dana60"...It is defenitely a more cost effective way of getting into beefer parts.

As for Wicked...

Hip · Apr 12, 2008

Hip said:
did they give ya a ball park price?

you could pm me if ya want, just so i know how many aluiminum cans i need to find:awesomework:

anyone know what years TTB F-250 parts to find?

will the ford knuckles fit on the dodge C's?

A friend of mine just sent his old F-250 TTB stuff to the dump

Berne · Apr 19, 2008

Hip said:
thats my sister your talkin about there mister:redneck:

she is pretty hot huh:stirpot:

Yeah im just seeking real time info, i do drive like an old man so i was figuring the unit bearing stub would last with my style driving.

thanks for the thoughts.

Hippy,
like jeff said....just go for it as cheap as possible. put a 35spl inner in it, and leave the little stubs....but maybe get a spare, as 'if' it does break, I think the tire falls the fawk off.

and wicked's just a tease.....:flipoff:

but at least she's good at it....

briejer · Apr 19, 2008

I seem to remember Dave had a chro-mo shaft turned down, splined and threaded for his.

I also think Andy(AMJ) ended up with that 60. Ask him about it.

Jay W · Apr 20, 2008

Hip said:
Few questions about a 92 dodge unit bearing 60.

Just an FYI, a '92 would not be unit bearing. That didn't start until '94.

Hip · Apr 25, 2008

ok my mistake now im not sure what year but it is the unit bearing....

so i just got some knuckles out from a ford TTB and they do fit the C's.

brakes, and everything very recently rebuilt

what would it take to upgrade to 35 spline outers?

it appears to me the bore of the knuckle is way too small for a 60 shaft at least the u joint ears?

the spindle bore is also too small for a 60 stubshaft?

can this knuckle be bored and redrilled to fit chevy 60 spindles?

Berne · Apr 25, 2008

well, whatever it is....its 94+, any earlier than that and it woulda been king-pin, fully just a conventional D60...

so, you got some...what, D50 TTB knuckles to fit on there? Do a quick sanity check and make sure the spindle face comes out perpendicular to the axle......I can't remember specifics, but I think I remember there being some Dana stuff that physically bolts together, but the king-pin inclination is different, so you wind up w/ some really wierd Camber, and it just ain't right....not saying thats what you've got....but just curious..

I'm not sure what to do about getting 60 axles through the 50 knuckle/spindle though...

I do know of a Dodge unit bearing 60 running around w/ I think Ford D60 spindles on it...
using the Unit bearing knuckles, the bore for the unit bearing is the same as it is for a conventional 60 spindle....this one has the spindle drilled out to the 4 bolt pattern of the unit bearing knuckle....and then all conventional 60 outter parts onto that.
it did push the track width out more, and makes for a wierd scrub radius, but you may be able to get around some of that w/ alot of backspacing in your wheels.....
it sounds a little gheto, but is been beat on and has held up just fine..

--Berne

Hip · Apr 25, 2008

yes TTB D 50 knuckles.

looks like D 44 stubs to me though.......

the knuckels appear to fit just right, plane of u joint in line with plane of the C's....

i could probably live with 30 spline outers but if i can upgrade for a reasonable price id do it.

Binder · Apr 25, 2008

I've been told that the chev king pin 60 wheel bearings are the same as the TTB 50 wheel bearings. If this is true could you get some chev spindles and bolt them into what you have and then a 35 spline stub would fit through? I guess it would just depend on the relation between the spindle and the knuckle..
Hell if this is true you should have enough meat to bore out the spindles you have.

Hip · Apr 25, 2008

yeah rick that seems to be the question, wish i had some chevy 60 spindles to compare to the knuckels i have. seems to me to be enough meat to bore out the knuckels and redrill for a chevy spindle....

Binder · Apr 25, 2008

Hip said:
yeah rick that seems to be the question, wish i had some chevy 60 spindles to compare to the knuckels i have. seems to me to be enough meat to bore out the knuckels and redrill for a chevy spindle....

Hip I have a chev KP knuckle (just one) that you could borrow to use for measuring/ mochup stuff if you need it?

Hip · Apr 25, 2008

Pssssst

Bernie

go over to hughs and trace the bolt pattern off of one oh his broken knuckels and fax it to me:awesomework:

Hip · Apr 25, 2008

rick where the hell do you live anyways?

let me look around some im sure i can find the dimensions somewhere on line, but ifn ya ever want to stop by with your old knuckle id definitely would compare.

there looks to me to be room if the chevy pattern is large enough to be outside the original pattern. most of that part (orig bolt holrs) i assume would be bored out and even if it did not clean up entirely there would be plenty of meat left to hold up.

huumm that is gonna be too big for the lathe i have access to....

Turtle Bite · Apr 25, 2008

The Dana 50 wheel hub is interchangeable with a ford dana 60 and standard ford stubs can be used when on a Ford 60.

As for the knuckles and spindles knuckles are not interchangeable with a ford balljoint 60 but the spindle will work with modification.

All that is different from what your doing though, and what you may run into is that you need custom stubs as Dodge ball joint 60s, Chevy kingpin 60s and Ford 60s all use different length stubshafts. You may run into that you now need a length in between say ford and balljoint dodge stubs.

Good luck, I have been researching building a Superduty 60 since spider 9's use many of those parts, if i could find one cheap enough I would go through the effort of figuring it all out.