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Ann people make mistakes. As I said Ed has always been nice to me. Is that "knowing" him? Well no, I don't really know him that well so who knows how he "really" is. But I'm sure he's a nice enough guy. Again people make mistakes. The whole weekend, big party, lots of people, etc thing gets to some people and things get out of hand. Hopefully a lot of people have learned a lot of things. :;

I'm sure with some of the stories that I've heard about a bunch of other stuff that went down over there that it would seem quite a few people were over there almost simply to start ****. Those are the ones you really have to worry about.


Thanks TW

Like I said I did act foolish that night and admit it fully but there is alot more to it that no one knows and I'm not even going to go there. I wasn't even there 1 hr the first day when this happend and I went over to what I thought were friends to show off my baby girl. found out real fast that these fake ass people were in fact not my friends and It braught me to tears. I'm a passonate person and found out this weekend that washing it away with a bottal is not the correct thing to do. I made a mistake and I'm man enough to admit it. for the rest of the ass hats that were involved and will never admit there fault's I say @^%$&*$^% :awesomework:

I have never had problems making friends and never will so I guess I'm not used to this kinda treatment. O well you live and learn. I'm truly sorry for scaring the kids. That I understand can not be forgivin and I'm making this promise to everyone in public on this board that I had a change of heart learning that I scared some kids that I'm done drinking like that. I don't drink at home anymore now so after this happen and I cried I drank to much with my REAL friends and I got stupid in a hurry.

I can admit when I screw up and everyone is human. Thats what real men do!!

:flipoff:
 
I'm one of the kinds of people who thinks things like this......

I wonder how many gallons of beer were consumed up there

How many pounds of pot were smoked

How many grams of H were smoked or injected

How many 80mg oxys were taken.


And then I ponder, Gee does any of that have any bearing on how a lot of people were acting up there? :awesomework:

Who cares about drugs and booze. I suggest you drop this subject and leave this thread...

Thanks TW

Like I said I did act foolish that night and admit it fully but there is alot more to it that no one knows and I'm not even going to go there. I wasn't even there 1 hr the first day when this happend and I went over to what I thought were friends to show off my baby girl. found out real fast that these fake ass people were in fact not my friends and It braught me to tears. I'm a passonate person and found out this weekend that washing it away with a bottal is not the correct thing to do. I made a mistake and I'm man enough to admit it. for the rest of the ass hats that were involved and will never admit there fault's I say @^%$&*$^% :awesomework:

I have never had problems making friends and never will so I guess I'm not used to this kinda treatment. O well you live and learn. I'm truly sorry for scaring the kids. That I understand can not be forgivin and I'm making this promise to everyone in public on this board that I had a change of heart learning that I scared some kids that I'm done drinking like that. I don't drink at home anymore now so after this happen and I cried I drank to much with my REAL friends and I got stupid in a hurry.

I can admit when I screw up and everyone is human. Thats what real men do!!

:flipoff:

I was going to make a long comment on this--but basicly when our children are present they learn from our actions...
 
Wow, that was a lot of reading... I'm glad I sold my Jeep and went to Crescent Bar where it sounds like people can handle their booze instead:haha:

That's the reason I wheel alone or with just a couple people I know, and why I don't go wheeling on holidays...Whats funny is after all this drama people will still defend drinking :haha::haha:
 
That's the reason I wheel alone or with just a couple people I know, and why I don't go wheeling on holidays...Whats funny is after all this drama people will still defend drinking :haha::haha:

x2.. Wheelin in big crowds always has some drama. I like 3-4 rigs in my group and thats plenty.
 
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That's the reason I wheel alone or with just a couple people I know, and why I don't go wheeling on holidays...Whats funny is after all this drama people will still defend drinking :haha::haha:
I am not going to defend it....but it does not belong on the trail....there is a time and place for it....and you need to be mature enough to consume responsibly....hard to do for some
 
I was going to make a long comment on this--but basicly when our children are present they learn from our actions...

And that is why as adults, we learn from our mistakes, so we can be the best parents possible..

Don't forget we learned this lesson too, hence why we haven't had any big parties in a long time now. :;
 
I am not going to defend it....but it does not belong on the trail....there is a time and place for it....and you need to be mature enough to consume responsibly....hard to do for some

I think you nailed it with your "Consume Responsibly" comment, I have no problem with those that are responsible, with both drinking and their actions. :awesomework:
 
I drank two beers while standing around eating lunch and watching people play on the rocks on Sunday, and then drove back to camp. I didn't break anything, do anything stupid, or raise my voice. ****in' weird.
 
I'm truly sorry for scaring the kids. That I understand can not be forgivin and I'm making this promise to everyone in public on this board that I had a change of heart learning that I scared some kids that I'm done drinking like that.

I can admit when I screw up and everyone is human. Thats what real men do!!

Of course it can be forgiven. It doesn't mean you're all going to be hunky dorey friends again, but a truly repentent heart and apology not only can, but should be forgiven. I won't hijack this as a right wing Christian whacko thread, as much as I'd like to:D so I'll just stop there. I need a biting my tongue emoticon to insert here.
 
Of course it can be forgiven. It doesn't mean you're all going to be hunky dorey friends again, but a truly repentent heart and apology not only can, but should be forgiven. I won't hijack this as a right wing Christian whacko thread, as much as I'd like to:D so I'll just stop there. I need a biting my tongue emoticon to insert here.

has nothing to do with a right wing christian whacko.. its just called being a good person and doing the right thing.

We all screw up.
 
never took pills in my life ,pass ur house everyother day with $269 tarp sitten under your yellow K5 blazer so ill be up in Elbe,**** next weekend and what the fuwkand I back up and do what and say ....I know we arnt all perfect why don't u settle this off the board stick up for good friends if u dont like it get :kissmyass:

Had a nice rainy weekend at Elbe with my daughter no problems no drinking

??? Are you saying you'd like to stop by for dinner some evening??? I'll feed you... or you saying you want the tarp under my blazer??? It was around $10 so your supplier's ass raping you... but you can have it. Elbe??? It's right up the road so I wouldn't feel to accomplished http://www.thefreedictionary.com/accomplished if I were you. Perfect??? Speak for yourself, I can't get any better :awesomework:.
 
I drank two beers while standing around eating lunch and watching people play on the rocks on Sunday, and then drove back to camp. I didn't break anything, do anything stupid, or raise my voice. ****in' weird.

That's because you were out of your realm and didn't have a keyboard in hand. I bet if we JB welded a keyboard to you steering wheel you would be back to normal. :flipoff:
 
Well when I got back to camp and found out you guys sent the cops to our camp and gave them my first and last name.......what in the hell did you think was going to happen. Outta everyone I know I would have never thought you guys were some cop calling *****s. Also want to bring up 4Xrick trying to run the baby blu beater off the road. does that make you feel tough going after one of my friends with your big truck? does that make your penis look bigger when you look in the mirror, you little piss ant. Just fair warning if you do that to me with my daughter in my truck I will unload a clip into you rig without hesitating. This **** is between us but if you threatin my family I have no ****ing problem going to jail. If you remember correctly I walked over to your camp whit my 12 month old daughter when Rick started cussing at me " keep fawking moving no one want you here" while I was holding a very young child that I wanted to introduce to what I thought were my friends....minus Rick of course. it's no sweat off my balls I just wish I knew your guys opinion along time ago it would have save my time I wasted working with a group that does nothing but talk **** behind your back and on the internet.

This has got way outta hand and I'm done with all you guys for sending the cops after me and thats why I went over to your camp and threw my 40 dollar WOW shirt in your fire! Don't worry about me comming over and talk to any of you Cop calling ***s ever again. I will stay away from you guys you stay the hell away from me.

PS If I was going to **** in anybody's rig it would have happend to Ricks not Donnie's. Sorry that happend to you Donnie you did not deserve that but rick did and you can thank him for starting this ****!


I am going to say my part here and will be done with this whole situation.
Fist off no one from out camp called the cops as Shane stated. the cops came to our camp asking about all the yelling and screaming.
Ed you walked into my camp where my family and friends were sitting around the fire having good conversation and said hey whats up guys and everyone there ignored you, then you asked where luey and your buddy Kelly were and i pointed between 2 trucks toward where luey was and politely said Luey is over there if you want to talk to him then keep on walking that way, at that point with your daughter in your arm you started screaming at me that i better watch the way i talk to you or your going to kick my ass and continued to scream at the top of your lungs how much of a ***** i was and screamed at your girlfriend to get her ass over there and take the kid because you were going to kick my ass. the only profanity I used after 5 minutes of your screaming was i said dude why dont you get the F out of my camp.
I never even got out of my chair, you continued you rant about if we didnt like you we should do something about it and fight you right now,
"Rick your a ***** get up and fight me like a man" then shane and don walked up, shane said ed why dont you leave no one wants you here.
you proceeded to scream that if we didnt want you there we should do something about it, we all just watched you scream for a few more minutes then you finally walked off still yelling as you were walking off the other direction.
coming back into camp at 4 am waking up the kids in camp and screaming again the way you did was very inappropriate the fack you were screaming at me that i was a ***** for not getting up with your kid in your hand and in front of my family and kids was way over the line.
and you say you were sober at this point.

you were banned from my board a long time ago because i chose to not deal with you anymore yet you chose to keep sending me pms on other boards and on facebook threatening to kick my ass and would not leave it alone. I chose to not respond to any of your threats or messages in any way in hopes it would all blow over.

as far as this baby blue beater thing is concerned I have no idea what you are talking about, i was at all times with at least 2 to 3 other rigs the whole weekend, threatening to unload a clip on me is just stupid. i have never threatened your family in any way you have threatened me several times.
if this had been the first time you have caused problems then people might be more willing to let it slide but you have gotten into it with a few people at elbe you have gotten into confrentations with people at tahua and at reiter, some people are starting to notice a trend here.

I am choosing as before to walk away from this and not worry about it any longer as it has no real impact on my life after this moment.

other than this situation I had a blast with my friends and family and was a great week all together and look forward to next time.
 
??? Are you saying you'd like to stop by for dinner some evening??? I'll feed you... or you saying you want the tarp under my blazer??? It was around $10 so your supplier's ass raping you... but you can have it. Elbe??? It's right up the road so I wouldn't feel to accomplished http://www.thefreedictionary.com/accomplished if I were you. Perfect??? Speak for yourself, I can't get any better :awesomework:.


Not going to feed your fire Dude,have a rig to build I wasn't there I know I thought both of you were good people ...

Hope u guys resolve your matter think positive for the features this subject is the past forget and forgive ,you could of solved it over the phone instead of on the board ..

I dont buy tarps have a shop...
 
Not going to feed your fire Dude,have a rig to build I wasn't there I know I thought both of you were good people ...

Hope u guys resolve your matter think positive for the features this subject is the past forget and forgive ,you could of solved it over the phone instead of on the board ..

I dont buy tarps have a shop...

Well then the fires out dude, agreed to forget...
 
It seems a lot of the talk on here is about being a mature adult and knowing your limit. I am a bachelor and I like to party and get drunk when I camp. Because I know this about myself I make it a point to find a camping spot far enough away from everyone else so that I don't offend the many people with families trying to enjoy a quiet weekend in the woods. If I am camping with other families I simply leave the hard stuff at home and limit myself to a couple beers so that I don't get crazy. No matter who I camp with I always leave my spot as clean or cleaner than when I arrived. Lets be responsible adults and keep this sport alive. Show respect for others and you will get it in return.
 
It seems a lot of the talk on here is about being a mature adult and knowing your limit. I am a bachelor and I like to party and get drunk when I camp. Because I know this about myself I make it a point to find a camping spot far enough away from everyone else so that I don't offend the many people with families trying to enjoy a quiet weekend in the woods. If I am camping with other families I simply leave the hard stuff at home and limit myself to a couple beers so that I don't get crazy. No matter who I camp with I always leave my spot as clean or cleaner than when I arrived. Lets be responsible adults and keep this sport alive. Show respect for others and you will get it in return.

Very well said :awesomework:
 
After 14 pages you're just gonna roll over? Fawk that, more drama please :cheer:

No--this thread will remain open for another day and then be closed--as it will have searved its purpose and we can move onward and forward.
But I would be happy to remove you from the thread..
 
I just read thru this whole thing, and I'm stuck with one fact foremost in my mind:

Can't we all just get along?

LOL


Actually, I realise how few people I know on here after reading this...
 
It seems a lot of the talk on here is about being a mature adult and knowing your limit. I am a bachelor and I like to party and get drunk when I camp. Because I know this about myself I make it a point to find a camping spot far enough away from everyone else so that I don't offend the many people with families trying to enjoy a quiet weekend in the woods. If I am camping with other families I simply leave the hard stuff at home and limit myself to a couple beers so that I don't get crazy. No matter who I camp with I always leave my spot as clean or cleaner than when I arrived. Lets be responsible adults and keep this sport alive. Show respect for others and you will get it in return.

x2:awesomework: yep same as on the trail, i will stop and talk to anyone out playin, if i notice a group with kids, or we have kids with our group i will change my wording as to not offend anyone. even if the parents dont care i still try and keep it clean, i act how i would want people to act in front of my kids, if i had any:eeek:
 
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I drank two beers while standing around eating lunch and watching people play on the rocks on Sunday, and then drove back to camp. I didn't break anything, do anything stupid, or raise my voice. ****in' weird.

Better becarefull what you say. I once said i had opened a beer or two N had my buggy loaded up N ready for a run. That thread went several pages about how much of a ass i was.. :corn::stirpot:
 
Actually, I realise how few people I know on here after reading this...

Me too, I've gone wheeling with Pete (Gasman) and met a few others at the last Reiter clean-up but apparently I don't get out enough.
 
Better becarefull what you say. I once said i had opened a beer or two N had my buggy loaded up N ready for a run. That thread went several pages about how much of a ass i was.. :corn::stirpot:


WE already know Crust is an ASS, we have thousands of pages of proof.

:beer::beer:
 
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