yah i hear ya .im not sure i talked to my father inlaw and now they are talking just rim rock the 3rd weekend of july and not naches ,so i might try to go ...some guys in my club like evans on the 4th .they like to go up top and watch the fireworks it is a good show but i will kick all options around.i am real ancsious to go to the rocks again so i might tag along if it's ok.