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<blockquote data-quote="Dude" data-source="post: 778944" data-attributes="member: 15972"><p>I have been playing with the 2.2 Red Rocks for a week now.</p><p></p><p>2 things I have discovered.</p><p></p><p>One thing is they do not like a fast wheel speed and slow to go is the way to drive these tires.</p><p></p><p>The second thing is the tire doesn't need a lot of weight on it. I am only running 3 oz's in the front and no weight in the rear. A very light rig is the way with this tire. I do run 3 oz's on the rear axle in the center so a 1.5 split will also do per tire on the rear. </p><p></p><p>As far as "hopping" or wheel hop, they are not as bad as my cut Moabs and they do out preform the Moabs hands down.</p><p></p><p>I also did some sipping on the red rocks and it seems to have increased the performance at least 30%. I also run the pro line foams but they are about a 1/4" too small and it hurts the performance of these tires. I am going to "belt" the tread carcass with high density 1/8" foam like you would use for a canopy seal on a pick up truck. That should stabilize the lugs from turning over on themselves. </p><p></p><p>I did not "groove" them, I "sipped" with a mini saw and a dremal. I did some "cross" type patterns on the biggest lugs and siped the outer lugs by the side biters lengthways for a side bite stability. That help a lot, and I left the second biggest lugs alone. </p><p></p><p>The ultimate plan is to take 8 tires to make 4. I know it is not cheap at $80 for a set of tires but competing is a no holds bared type of sport. I will be adding the lugs from one tire to another and sipe accordingly. You basically will have a "krawler" type of tire to work with and they should work really good. I won't be adding any side biter lugs with the combo I am going to put together, that way a large "void " between the lugs will still be there for the side bite on these tires. </p><p></p><p>I am going to test today with a set of new mashers against the red rocks. I won't be surprised if they come out dead even.</p><p></p><p>I would not be discouraged on this tire yet, in my opinion a lot of you guys are geared way too high. I am at 8:1 off the trans and it is just right with a 55 turn lathe motor. This is "crawling" not "racing" we are doing. </p><p></p><p>The mashers work really good with a lot of wheel speed but any tire can be "burned in" and make a bite to go up. A really good set up rig shouldn't even be hardly spinning a tire to make a climb and we all should know that. </p><p></p><p>With that said I will be continuing to make the 2.2 red rock work and we need a big tire were we crawl. We run the big rocks with holes that can swallow a TLT no problem. The Supers are even really challenged at "the beach"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dude, post: 778944, member: 15972"] I have been playing with the 2.2 Red Rocks for a week now. 2 things I have discovered. One thing is they do not like a fast wheel speed and slow to go is the way to drive these tires. The second thing is the tire doesn't need a lot of weight on it. I am only running 3 oz's in the front and no weight in the rear. A very light rig is the way with this tire. I do run 3 oz's on the rear axle in the center so a 1.5 split will also do per tire on the rear. As far as "hopping" or wheel hop, they are not as bad as my cut Moabs and they do out preform the Moabs hands down. I also did some sipping on the red rocks and it seems to have increased the performance at least 30%. I also run the pro line foams but they are about a 1/4" too small and it hurts the performance of these tires. I am going to "belt" the tread carcass with high density 1/8" foam like you would use for a canopy seal on a pick up truck. That should stabilize the lugs from turning over on themselves. I did not "groove" them, I "sipped" with a mini saw and a dremal. I did some "cross" type patterns on the biggest lugs and siped the outer lugs by the side biters lengthways for a side bite stability. That help a lot, and I left the second biggest lugs alone. The ultimate plan is to take 8 tires to make 4. I know it is not cheap at $80 for a set of tires but competing is a no holds bared type of sport. I will be adding the lugs from one tire to another and sipe accordingly. You basically will have a "krawler" type of tire to work with and they should work really good. I won't be adding any side biter lugs with the combo I am going to put together, that way a large "void " between the lugs will still be there for the side bite on these tires. I am going to test today with a set of new mashers against the red rocks. I won't be surprised if they come out dead even. I would not be discouraged on this tire yet, in my opinion a lot of you guys are geared way too high. I am at 8:1 off the trans and it is just right with a 55 turn lathe motor. This is "crawling" not "racing" we are doing. The mashers work really good with a lot of wheel speed but any tire can be "burned in" and make a bite to go up. A really good set up rig shouldn't even be hardly spinning a tire to make a climb and we all should know that. With that said I will be continuing to make the 2.2 red rock work and we need a big tire were we crawl. We run the big rocks with holes that can swallow a TLT no problem. The Supers are even really challenged at "the beach" [/QUOTE]
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