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<blockquote data-quote="japerry" data-source="post: 1355440" data-attributes="member: 17178"><p>why do people consider bypasses damage? Personally I see bypasess as a sign that a trail is not meeting its intended use.</p><p></p><p>Expressway at WV 10 years ago didn't have an easy bypass around the rock face. People punched one in. Back then there was discussion about blocking it off. Eventually it was left opened because it kept getting open. Is this damage? No.</p><p></p><p>Another point: Lower Mainline had someone make a bypass because the main route was too easy. They wanted something harder. So they started running through the tank traps near the road and now exists two mud holes. Is this damage? No.</p><p></p><p>In my view, damage is when trails, legal or not, cause adverse affects to the greater environment around it. IE: Sediment flowing into a fish bearing stream. </p><p></p><p>People tend to look at certain trails on a micro scale, which can look like serious damage. However, if you zoom out and notice that water or sediment isn't flowing into streams, or damaging money making trees, is damage really occuring? Not in my book. Money has it that Ecology is thinking the same way.</p><p></p><p>Is it considered damage if we purchase a tree to rub up against? Is it damage if trees loose half of their bark due to vehciles, but survive and grow (and then get cut down above the bark loss)?</p><p></p><p>I think 4x4 users have bought the story of the hikers perspective on damage. Its time to challenge that perspective and fight for our 'pig sty' (referencing WTA blog comment: <a href="http://www.wta.org/trail-news/signpost/dnr-charts-new-management-direction-for-reiter-foothills" target="_blank">http://www.wta.org/trail-news/signpost/dnr-charts-new-management-direction-for-reiter-foothills</a> )</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="japerry, post: 1355440, member: 17178"] why do people consider bypasses damage? Personally I see bypasess as a sign that a trail is not meeting its intended use. Expressway at WV 10 years ago didn't have an easy bypass around the rock face. People punched one in. Back then there was discussion about blocking it off. Eventually it was left opened because it kept getting open. Is this damage? No. Another point: Lower Mainline had someone make a bypass because the main route was too easy. They wanted something harder. So they started running through the tank traps near the road and now exists two mud holes. Is this damage? No. In my view, damage is when trails, legal or not, cause adverse affects to the greater environment around it. IE: Sediment flowing into a fish bearing stream. People tend to look at certain trails on a micro scale, which can look like serious damage. However, if you zoom out and notice that water or sediment isn't flowing into streams, or damaging money making trees, is damage really occuring? Not in my book. Money has it that Ecology is thinking the same way. Is it considered damage if we purchase a tree to rub up against? Is it damage if trees loose half of their bark due to vehciles, but survive and grow (and then get cut down above the bark loss)? I think 4x4 users have bought the story of the hikers perspective on damage. Its time to challenge that perspective and fight for our 'pig sty' (referencing WTA blog comment: [url]http://www.wta.org/trail-news/signpost/dnr-charts-new-management-direction-for-reiter-foothills[/url] ) [/QUOTE]
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