DNR is getting ready to pass some new laws not all of them are good

mud4funtoy · Jun 13, 2008

They got some good ideas and some bad one also.

I don't really like that they want to pass a rule that says that you cant pick up or collect firewood from the woods. Bringing firewood from home to go to the wilderness WOW

Also they want quite time at 10 pm to include not being able to run a generator between the hours of 10 pm - 7 am

here are the meeting times and places where we get a chance to speak out about what we don't like, It is our only chance and if we dont take it then we will half to deal with there new rules I Plan on going to the meeting in olympia
June 19
I hope some of you will come with me. some of these rules are not good and we need to make sure they don't try to pass a rule that says we cant be on the road at night.

Formal opportunity to comment will be at the scheduled public hearings. All hearings are scheduled to start at 6:00 p.m. on the following dates and locations:

June 10th, Tuesday - Mount Vernon, Best Western Cotten Tree

June 12th, Thursday, Port Angeles, Senior Community Center

June 17th, Tuesday, Hoquiam, Timberland Library *** Issaquah, King Co. Library

June 18th, Wednesday, Vancouver, Red Lion Inn *** Ellensburg, Central WA. University

June 19th, Thursday, Olympia, Phoenix Inn Suites *** Omak, Sun Valley Restaurant

June 25th, Wednesday, Spokane, Hilton Garden Inn

Feel free to contact Doug McClelland at 206-920-5907 or email at
<[email protected]> concerning changes once the draft language is available after May 21st.

mud4funtoy · Jun 13, 2008

Here is a link to the announcement of the updated rules as well as the public hearing locations:
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/RecreationEduc.../nr08_103.aspx

Here is a link to the proposed updated rules:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/law.../08-10-059.htm

Here is a link to the old rules:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.a...2-52&full=true

The more people commenting on this the better!! More people means more voters means more attention and a better outcome for our concerns.

(WOW)

Gibby1 · Jun 13, 2008

I sent a letter to Doug McLelland a few weeks back about the campfire wood. The geonerator rule is pretty consistent with any campground use because some generators are VERY loud and obnoxoius. Now, put in some pay hook up sites and I'd be happy!

nick c · Jun 13, 2008

mud4funtoy said:
June 17th, Tuesday, Hoquiam, Timberland Library *** Issaquah, King Co. Library

Does this mean there will be a meeting in Hoquiam AND Issaquah next tuesday? If so I'll have to get out to the Issaquah one.

mud4funtoy · Jun 13, 2008

NAC25 said:
Does this mean there will be a meeting in Hoquiam AND Issaquah next tuesday? If so I'll have to get out to the Issaquah one.

yes and that would be really great

mud4funtoy · Jun 13, 2008

Gibby said:
I sent a letter to Doug McLelland a few weeks back about the campfire wood. The geonerator rule is pretty consistent with any campground use because some generators are VERY loud and obnoxoius. Now, put in some pay hook up sites and I'd be happy!

I think also in that section it also stated no reving of engines meaning you not being able to run your vehicle at night and I may be wrong but it sounded like it was for all dnr land not just the camp ground.

mud4funtoy · Jun 13, 2008

We need to get some people there so we can ask these questions and so we can state there importance to us.

Gibby1 · Jun 13, 2008

mud4funtoy said:
I think also in that section it also stated no reving of engines meaning you not being able to run your vehicle at night and I may be wrong but it sounded like it was for all dnr land not just the camp ground.

Revving of engines does not mean you can't run your vehicle. The DNR already has rules that state that you're not allowed to run at night and that already includes all DNR land. Night runs are not allowed on DNR land.

mud4funtoy · Jun 14, 2008

( WOW )

That would be cool to get a hundred or so. That might get our point accross to them

(WOW)

mud4funtoy · Jun 14, 2008

Gibby said:
Revving of engines does not mean you can't run your vehicle. The DNR already has rules that state that you're not allowed to run at night and that already includes all DNR land. Night runs are not allowed on DNR land.

Well I think that is a rediculas rule, what if your rig breaks down and your just trying to get it off the trail within there 72 hour limit.

Or what if you live really far away and buy the time you get off work, get everything loaded and get to the camp ground at midnight. That includes running your rig on DNR land at night.

Fact is we are giving them to much authority to write tickets look at how many they are writing up at evens creek and no one is trying to do anything to change it.

(WOW)

longfield · Jun 14, 2008

mud4funtoy said:
Well I think that is a rediculas rule, what if your rig breaks down and your just trying to get it off the trail within there 72 hour limit.

Or what if you live really far away and buy the time you get off work, get everything loaded and get to the camp ground at midnight. That includes running your rig on DNR land at night.

Fact is we are giving them to much authority to write tickets look at how many they are writing up at evens creek and no one is trying to do anything to change it.

(WOW)

Yes your right an we all know it whats next?

pokey · Jun 14, 2008

I think you guys are reading wayyyyy to much into this. The rules are just giving them the ability to ticket if needed. It dosent mean that you cant drive into camp after 10. It just means you cant drive in at 12 and rev the crap out of your motor then do doughnuts in the parking lot. Theres also this place called court where you have every right to contest any ticket you may recieve. I am glad their trying to bring back a little civility to camping:awesomework:

Richie · Jun 14, 2008

pokey said:
I think you guys are reading wayyyyy to much into this. The rules are just giving them the ability to ticket if needed. It dosent mean that you cant drive into camp after 10. It just means you cant drive in at 12 and rev the crap out of your motor then do doughnuts in the parking lot. Theres also this place called court where you have every right to contest any ticket you may recieve. I am glad their trying to bring back a little civility to camping:awesomework:

(WOW) for some us working folk its pretty hard to get the weekend off to go wheeling let alone get a week day off to go fight a ticket

pokey · Jun 14, 2008

Richie said:
WOW Some of half dam near rub our boss off just to get the weekend off,I'm scared what we would half to do to get a week day off to go fight a ticket:5bitch:

whattttttt :eeek:

archer1965 · Jun 14, 2008

Richie said:
WOW Some of half dam near rub our boss off just to get the weekend off,I'm scared what we would half to do to get a week day off to go fight a ticket:5bitch:

sounds like you could use a new employer

mud4funtoy · Jun 14, 2008

pokey said:
I think you guys are reading wayyyyy to much into this. The rules are just giving them the ability to ticket if needed. It dosent mean that you cant drive into camp after 10. It just means you cant drive in at 12 and rev the crap out of your motor then do doughnuts in the parking lot. Theres also this place called court where you have every right to contest any ticket you may recieve. I am glad their trying to bring back a little civility to camping:awesomework:

WOW
Let me tell you a story.
about 3 years ago DNR posted up sighns that said no driving on DNR land at night. We as wheelers were told don't worry about it it only applies to thugs. I hosted a work party and some of the folks decided to spend the night so they went to town ( Ashford ) to get some beer, food and gas. On there way back to camp they found a DNR cop parked accross the road and they got a $100.00 fine for being on the road at night. Well you know me I threw a big fit about it and got those sighns taken down.

This is what I am talking about it is ok to support laws that make sense but lets not let them impose laws that don't.

I'm going to be at the meeting and We all need to make a effort to get there.

(WOW)

Richie · Jun 14, 2008

pokey said:
whattttttt :eeek:

WOW It figures you'd take that seriously,:looser:

I'm in the customer sevice bussiness, and the company I work for is the best in the country at what we do. So they have very high standards for there employees and demand alot out of them:

64FJ40 · Jun 14, 2008

Richie said:
WOW It figures you'd take that seriously,:looser:

Umm no. He was seriously asking "What?". As in, "what was that conglomeration of words supposed to mean?"

It took me a few tries, but I think I got it. And I agree with archer. If you have to perform sexual favors to get a weekend off, and there is no hope of getting a weekday off even with plenty of advance warning (the reason shouldn't matter), it's time to find a new place to work.

pokey · Jun 14, 2008

Richie said:
WOW It figures you'd take that seriously,:looser:

I'm in the customer sevice bussiness, and the company I work for is the best in the country at what we do. So they have very high standards for there employees and demand alot out of them:

what can I say

If your in customer service and you behave with clients as you behave on here its no wonder your boss makes you work so much. You must have a ton of damage to fix. and yea it was a simple reading jibberish comprehension issue. English as a second language huh.:haha:

Richie · Jun 14, 2008

Richie said:
(WOW) for some us working folk its pretty hard to get the weekend off to go wheeling let alone get a week day off to go fight a ticket

Hopefully this makes a little more sense. The point I was trying to make was it would be alot easier to not let the stupid laws pass, than take time off to go fight a ticket