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<blockquote data-quote="Money Mark" data-source="post: 1378135" data-attributes="member: 16397"><p>The heart of this issue is not the width restrictions; as these width restrictions (for now at least) only affect Evans Creek. (and they have been in effect for decades; only now being proposed for actual enforcement)</p><p></p><p>The MVUM (read this: <a href="http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/ohv/ohv_route_area_implementation_guide.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/ohv/ohv_route_area_implementation_guide.pdf</a> ) is the true issue at hand and where the uproar has stemmed from. This is not a Washington state issue. This is a National issue.</p><p></p><p>So after understanding this......what EXACTLY are we to change / fight / rally against?</p><p></p><p>I love when certain folks make a blanket statement "fight for the cause" or "get involved". For what EXACTLY are you referring to? The width restriction for Evans Creek? The (proposed) seasonal closures in the various Ranger districts? Did you know there are ORV users that support these new regulations and their enforcement? Did you know that overturning some of these new regulations is possible, but NOT probable?</p><p></p><p>Myself, I have chosen an area and plan to support and give my time, money and efforts to. Reiter.....on DNR land. </p><p></p><p>Since this thread is about FS land and trails inside of a National Forest......what specifically are the goals of "getting involved"? Go to the focus group meetings? Yes, ok......but what else? That in itself may make you feel you're "involved" but in reality you're getting educated and (maybe) providing input......nothing more, nothing less. </p><p></p><p>"What exactly am I trying to accomplish?" should be the first question to ask yourself. Spreading yourself thin, for an area(s) that has it's new regulations (ready to be) in affect, for an area you might frequent once or twice a year is not an effective way to "Get Involved". If you find yourself disagreeing with this statement, good for you. You are truly one of the "involved".:awesomework:</p><p></p><p>And......don't get all pissy:hi:I'm just trying to help anyone reading this to understand their choices and how they might (or might not) affect the REAL issues at hand.</p><p></p><p>These threads are difficult, as a single post by a single person has little effect on the masses. And it seems we are all guilty of "web-volunteering" while those that actually are "involved" don't give us a true understanding of what needs to be done. They feed us the old "get involved" with little to no solid guidance. </p><p></p><p>But.....what are you gonna do, right? Meh.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Money Mark, post: 1378135, member: 16397"] The heart of this issue is not the width restrictions; as these width restrictions (for now at least) only affect Evans Creek. (and they have been in effect for decades; only now being proposed for actual enforcement) The MVUM (read this: [url]http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/ohv/ohv_route_area_implementation_guide.pdf[/url] ) is the true issue at hand and where the uproar has stemmed from. This is not a Washington state issue. This is a National issue. So after understanding this......what EXACTLY are we to change / fight / rally against? I love when certain folks make a blanket statement "fight for the cause" or "get involved". For what EXACTLY are you referring to? The width restriction for Evans Creek? The (proposed) seasonal closures in the various Ranger districts? Did you know there are ORV users that support these new regulations and their enforcement? Did you know that overturning some of these new regulations is possible, but NOT probable? Myself, I have chosen an area and plan to support and give my time, money and efforts to. Reiter.....on DNR land. Since this thread is about FS land and trails inside of a National Forest......what specifically are the goals of "getting involved"? Go to the focus group meetings? Yes, ok......but what else? That in itself may make you feel you're "involved" but in reality you're getting educated and (maybe) providing input......nothing more, nothing less. "What exactly am I trying to accomplish?" should be the first question to ask yourself. Spreading yourself thin, for an area(s) that has it's new regulations (ready to be) in affect, for an area you might frequent once or twice a year is not an effective way to "Get Involved". If you find yourself disagreeing with this statement, good for you. You are truly one of the "involved".:awesomework: And......don't get all pissy:hi:I'm just trying to help anyone reading this to understand their choices and how they might (or might not) affect the REAL issues at hand. These threads are difficult, as a single post by a single person has little effect on the masses. And it seems we are all guilty of "web-volunteering" while those that actually are "involved" don't give us a true understanding of what needs to be done. They feed us the old "get involved" with little to no solid guidance. But.....what are you gonna do, right? Meh..... [/QUOTE]
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