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<blockquote data-quote="Trailtoy1993" data-source="post: 1344023" data-attributes="member: 16430"><p>Seriously? Do some of you even read your posts before hitting submit?</p><p></p><p>"they all make power in the exact same rpm range" REALLY? Looks to me like the CTD makes its peak torque 500 rpm lower than the PoS. Is it just me?</p><p></p><p>"Horsepower is the measure of work, torque is bullshit" REALLY? Well how bout this, we'll put my 300hp turbo toyota 4cylinder in your tow rig. It makes the same HP as your PS right? Should work fine, RIGHT? Come on man, that turbo toy motor is awesome but it sure as F$%K ain't gonna tow like a diesel. Horsepower is a contrived figure based off of torque, y'alls posted the formula yourselves, it was developed by tractor salesmen in the early 1900's to help them show farmers how much better the new tractors were than horses, torque is the only figure that really matters when pulling. CTD's make there torque lower and carry that peak dead flat til the rev limiter, which shows the potential that is inside... The stock motor is limited. </p><p></p><p>And last, an inline six has SEVEN main bearings vs. FIVE for an eight cylinder, which one is going to keep the crank from moving around better under big work conditions? (hint: the one with more bearings!)</p><p></p><p>I have personal experience with two PS trucks and two CTD trucks the first PS was a work truck that was always leaking or dropping accessory drive pullies until the lower end gave out. The second was a buddies truck that I towed with for a while, he traded it in and a week later the dealer called trying to go back on the deal because the lower end was going out..... </p><p></p><p>I did a shitload of research before I bought my first CTD. After alot of bullshit filtering I came away with the belief that the CTD was the more durable package than either the PS or duraturd. I loved that truck and only had one problem....VP44.... which after FASS never happened again. I really wish I still had that truck because my 6.7 CTD I really wonder if its going to be a durable ride, I already had a VGT replaced at 42k miles..... </p><p></p><p>Really, unmodified, the two motors will each most likely last and perform great. Just my experience says that stock 7.3 PS's < 5.9 CTD's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trailtoy1993, post: 1344023, member: 16430"] Seriously? Do some of you even read your posts before hitting submit? "they all make power in the exact same rpm range" REALLY? Looks to me like the CTD makes its peak torque 500 rpm lower than the PoS. Is it just me? "Horsepower is the measure of work, torque is bullshit" REALLY? Well how bout this, we'll put my 300hp turbo toyota 4cylinder in your tow rig. It makes the same HP as your PS right? Should work fine, RIGHT? Come on man, that turbo toy motor is awesome but it sure as F$%K ain't gonna tow like a diesel. Horsepower is a contrived figure based off of torque, y'alls posted the formula yourselves, it was developed by tractor salesmen in the early 1900's to help them show farmers how much better the new tractors were than horses, torque is the only figure that really matters when pulling. CTD's make there torque lower and carry that peak dead flat til the rev limiter, which shows the potential that is inside... The stock motor is limited. And last, an inline six has SEVEN main bearings vs. FIVE for an eight cylinder, which one is going to keep the crank from moving around better under big work conditions? (hint: the one with more bearings!) I have personal experience with two PS trucks and two CTD trucks the first PS was a work truck that was always leaking or dropping accessory drive pullies until the lower end gave out. The second was a buddies truck that I towed with for a while, he traded it in and a week later the dealer called trying to go back on the deal because the lower end was going out..... I did a shitload of research before I bought my first CTD. After alot of bullshit filtering I came away with the belief that the CTD was the more durable package than either the PS or duraturd. I loved that truck and only had one problem....VP44.... which after FASS never happened again. I really wish I still had that truck because my 6.7 CTD I really wonder if its going to be a durable ride, I already had a VGT replaced at 42k miles..... Really, unmodified, the two motors will each most likely last and perform great. Just my experience says that stock 7.3 PS's < 5.9 CTD's. [/QUOTE]
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