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<blockquote data-quote="Trailtoy1993" data-source="post: 1344341" data-attributes="member: 16430"><p>you are the one who started posting the horsepower equation, so it is perfectly relevent to the discussion.</p><p></p><p>Your own statement is a perfect example of why this is relevent, "If the Toy had the same RPM range then it would tow as well but we all know it has a much more limited power band." Well, not exactly, my 3sgte makes power from 3000 rpm to 6000 rpm. My CTD makes it from 1500 to 3200 which is the narrower power band? </p><p></p><p>My point was simply that Torque at low RPM makes a better tow truck motor and since horsepower is simply a multiplication of torque times RPM it really does not mean much. I.e. a 425 cat makes 425HP but 1600lb-ft torque and it pulls 80,000 lbs all over the world. My old CTD made 425HP and 850 lb-ft and yeah it was great in a pick-up but I wouldn't want that motor in a semi but it had the same horsepower. Torque at low rpm is what makes a great tow truck motor.</p><p></p><p>"weird... here's a V8 engine making torque at a mere 1600... but according to posts like yours that is impossible..."</p><p></p><p>Where did I ever say that is impossible? I was simply reading the information posted by another forum member and pointing out that the CTD makes its torque lower than the Powerstrokes.... Isn't the new motor the scorpion? I am not familiar with the new ford diesel at all you will have to excuse me. And no it is not impossible at all, Ford gas V-8's have long time made great tow truck motors, its all about long stroke and port size!</p><p></p><p>I'm not bashing Fords at all I own two and I have almost bought a PS twice. This thread was all about Powerstroke vs. Cummins and I am simply stating why I believe CTD's are better. My personal experience comes from one ford and one international with PS's and two CTD dodges, as well as lots of friends with both CTD's and PS's that ask me for help with thier rigs. I'll stick to CTD's personally as I believe them to be slightly better, and not by much mind you, but enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trailtoy1993, post: 1344341, member: 16430"] you are the one who started posting the horsepower equation, so it is perfectly relevent to the discussion. Your own statement is a perfect example of why this is relevent, "If the Toy had the same RPM range then it would tow as well but we all know it has a much more limited power band." Well, not exactly, my 3sgte makes power from 3000 rpm to 6000 rpm. My CTD makes it from 1500 to 3200 which is the narrower power band? My point was simply that Torque at low RPM makes a better tow truck motor and since horsepower is simply a multiplication of torque times RPM it really does not mean much. I.e. a 425 cat makes 425HP but 1600lb-ft torque and it pulls 80,000 lbs all over the world. My old CTD made 425HP and 850 lb-ft and yeah it was great in a pick-up but I wouldn't want that motor in a semi but it had the same horsepower. Torque at low rpm is what makes a great tow truck motor. "weird... here's a V8 engine making torque at a mere 1600... but according to posts like yours that is impossible..." Where did I ever say that is impossible? I was simply reading the information posted by another forum member and pointing out that the CTD makes its torque lower than the Powerstrokes.... Isn't the new motor the scorpion? I am not familiar with the new ford diesel at all you will have to excuse me. And no it is not impossible at all, Ford gas V-8's have long time made great tow truck motors, its all about long stroke and port size! I'm not bashing Fords at all I own two and I have almost bought a PS twice. This thread was all about Powerstroke vs. Cummins and I am simply stating why I believe CTD's are better. My personal experience comes from one ford and one international with PS's and two CTD dodges, as well as lots of friends with both CTD's and PS's that ask me for help with thier rigs. I'll stick to CTD's personally as I believe them to be slightly better, and not by much mind you, but enough. [/QUOTE]
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