Neal3000 said:Did John move yet? Wasn't that why he closed the park?

LandSpeeder said:Mud Mania is one of them 5K mud runs. They've done a few there. Prolly a contract or something.
JohnG said:Yes but, this is one little sliver of hope, that with the right deal, the gates could swing again.
lowbudgetjunk said:What are they asking for it?
LandSpeeder said:Doubt it through John Glass. That's why it seems he wants someone to assume his lease from Tom Haley, until his lease is up.
If I were a rich man, I'd buy the land. I would not lease it from Haley.
Neal3000 said:what's the difference between a obstacle course/mud running event vs. a offroading event? either one can be independently put on by a outside promoter who handles all the insurance/logistics
John Glass has been AT the park every event that I've attended there, he probably don't want to open the gates and trust that others (bunch of drunk wheelers) to treat his property and facilities with respect and not trash everything since he obviously doesn't have the time to devote to it anymore. I don't blame him either if that is the case. This park isn't like most parks. I could drive my little Saturn to just about any corner of the park....which means all the little hell raising idiot college kids with daddy's money comes in there to fawk off in there smoke stack lifted diesel trucks and whatnot. Which heightens the possibilities of vandalism, theft, blah blah, if the event is not "policed" like all the other ones I've been to. There was always security, several park staff, and John himself, out mingling around with the wheelers and ensuring everyone was able to have fun, but order of things were still under control.