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<blockquote data-quote="BC.YOTA" data-source="post: 377931" data-attributes="member: 6600"><p>Hello to all. Im fairly new to this site but have been lurking in the shadows for some time and really enjoy the skills and knowledge of the people here. Im looking to do an electric hydraulic conversion on my jd2 m32 tube bender and would like some knowledgeable people more experienced with this to help me decide which route to go and answer a few of my questions. Thanks in advance.</p><p>Any way to get right to the point im looking at two routes to go- Items from surplus center.com</p><p></p><p>route 1: buy 2 HP 115/230 VAC 1.3 GPM 2500 PSI DA POWER PACK with 3 position 4 way solenoid included and a 2.5 gal steel reservoir part #9-7138 price= $637 motor rpm= 3450</p><p> Then all I would need is a 2 button remote and some hoses.</p><p>heres a link to the item <a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Power-Units/AC-Power-Units/2-HP-115-230-VAC-1-3-GPM-2500-PSI-DA-POWER-PACK-9-7138.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Power-Units/AC-Power-Units/2-HP-115-230-VAC-1-3-GPM-2500-PSI-DA-POWER-PACK-9-7138.axd</a></p><p></p><p>route 2: buy items separately instead of an all in one power pack.</p><p> electric motor = 2 HP 1800 RPM 115/230 VAC 145TC TEFC LEESON MOTOR W/MANUAL OVERLOAD item#10-2708 price= $273 </p><p><a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/AC-Motors/AC-Motors-Face-Mount/2-HP-1800-RPM-115-230-VAC-145TC-TEFC-LEESON-MOTOR-W-MANUAL-OVERLOAD-10-2708.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/AC-Motors/AC-Motors-Face-Mount/2-HP-1800-RPM-115-230-VAC-145TC-TEFC-LEESON-MOTOR-W-MANUAL-OVERLOAD-10-2708.axd</a> </p><p></p><p> 3 gallon hydraulic reservoir/tank item #9-8416-3 price=$88 </p><p><a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/3-GALLON-HYDRAULIC-RESERVOIR-TANK-9-8416-3.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/3-GALLON-HYDRAULIC-RESERVOIR-TANK-9-8416-3.axd</a> </p><p> </p><p> Hydraulic pump= 0.16 cu in DYNAMIC GPF1027PC HYD PUMP item #9-7764-B price=$88 </p><p><a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Pumps/Gear-Pumps/0-16-cu-in-DYNAMIC-GPF1027PC-HYD-PUMP-9-7764-B.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Pumps/Gear-Pumps/0-16-cu-in-DYNAMIC-GPF1027PC-HYD-PUMP-9-7764-B.axd</a> </p><p></p><p> Motor to pump mount= 56C / 143-145TC MOTOR TO SAE AA 2 BOLT PUMP MOUNT item #1-3895 price=$33 </p><p><a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/Hydra-Mount/56C-143-145TC-MOTOR-TO-SAE-AA-2-BOLT-PUMP-MOUNT-1-3895.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/Hydra-Mount/56C-143-145TC-MOTOR-TO-SAE-AA-2-BOLT-PUMP-MOUNT-1-3895.axd</a> </p><p></p><p> Two button DA Remote= PENDANT KG12 PB REMOTE CONTROL item #9-1441-d price=$44</p><p><a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Switches/Pushbutton-Switches/PENDANT-KG12-PB-REMOTE-CONTROL-FOR-9-1480-9-1441-D.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Switches/Pushbutton-Switches/PENDANT-KG12-PB-REMOTE-CONTROL-FOR-9-1480-9-1441-D.axd</a> </p><p> </p><p> Dual Acting solenoid valve=120 VAC 10 GPM CC DA SOLENOID VALVE item #9-7237 price=$170 or 120 VAC 10 GPM OC DA SOLENOID VALVE item #9-7235 price=$155 </p><p><a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Solenoid-Valves/120-VAC-10-GPM-CC-DA-SOLENOID-VALVE-9-7237.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Solenoid-Valves/120-VAC-10-GPM-CC-DA-SOLENOID-VALVE-9-7237.axd</a> </p><p></p><p> 1 STATION DO3 SUBPLATE OPEN CENTER or closed center to mount da solenoid valve to manifold item #9-5883-1 or #9-4070-1 price= $36</p><p> <a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Adapters-Fittings/Subplates/1-STATION-DO3-PARALLEL-CC-SUBPLATE-9-4070-1.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Adapters-Fittings/Subplates/1-STATION-DO3-PARALLEL-CC-SUBPLATE-9-4070-1.axd</a></p><p> </p><p> 2x HIRSCHMANN CONNECTOR item #11-2457 price= $5 each</p><p><a href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Valve-Parts-Accessories/HIRSCHMANN-CONNECTOR-11-2457.axd" target="_blank">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Valve-Parts-Accessories/HIRSCHMANN-CONNECTOR-11-2457.axd</a></p><p> </p><p>Total being around $740ish</p><p> and I would still need some hoses and possibly a inline filter.</p><p></p><p> So my questions are</p><p>1: Which motor is better for a tube bender, one with 3450rpm or one with 1800rpm. ( I've read the 1800rpm will have more shaft torque. is this true and does it matter for a bender?)</p><p>2: for the Dual acting solenoid valve should it be a closed center one (all ports blocked in neutral) item#9-7237 or a open center one (work ports blocked in neutral) item#9-7235 or open center (all ports open to tank in neutral) item#9-7236</p><p>3: am I missing any parts on my 2nd route to make this work and do I have the right parts.</p><p>4: does the hydraulic pump look to be adequate? not to slow but not so fast I cant make accurate identical bends?</p><p></p><p>Im wanting to be able to bend 1.75 - 2" x .25 wall just to be overkill</p><p>Thanks again, any info or help on this subject is greatly appreciated. Any info you think im missing let me know and ill try and clarify. I tried to post pics of the parts but it didn't work.so I posted links. ill try again</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BC.YOTA, post: 377931, member: 6600"] Hello to all. Im fairly new to this site but have been lurking in the shadows for some time and really enjoy the skills and knowledge of the people here. Im looking to do an electric hydraulic conversion on my jd2 m32 tube bender and would like some knowledgeable people more experienced with this to help me decide which route to go and answer a few of my questions. Thanks in advance. Any way to get right to the point im looking at two routes to go- Items from surplus center.com route 1: buy 2 HP 115/230 VAC 1.3 GPM 2500 PSI DA POWER PACK with 3 position 4 way solenoid included and a 2.5 gal steel reservoir part #9-7138 price= $637 motor rpm= 3450 Then all I would need is a 2 button remote and some hoses. heres a link to the item [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Power-Units/AC-Power-Units/2-HP-115-230-VAC-1-3-GPM-2500-PSI-DA-POWER-PACK-9-7138.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Power-Units/AC-Power-Units/2-HP-115-230-VAC-1-3-GPM-2500-PSI-DA-POWER-PACK-9-7138.axd[/url] route 2: buy items separately instead of an all in one power pack. electric motor = 2 HP 1800 RPM 115/230 VAC 145TC TEFC LEESON MOTOR W/MANUAL OVERLOAD item#10-2708 price= $273 [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/AC-Motors/AC-Motors-Face-Mount/2-HP-1800-RPM-115-230-VAC-145TC-TEFC-LEESON-MOTOR-W-MANUAL-OVERLOAD-10-2708.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/AC-Motors/AC-Motors-Face-Mount/2-HP-1800-RPM-115-230-VAC-145TC-TEFC-LEESON-MOTOR-W-MANUAL-OVERLOAD-10-2708.axd[/url] 3 gallon hydraulic reservoir/tank item #9-8416-3 price=$88 [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/3-GALLON-HYDRAULIC-RESERVOIR-TANK-9-8416-3.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/Hydraulic-Reservoirs/3-GALLON-HYDRAULIC-RESERVOIR-TANK-9-8416-3.axd[/url] Hydraulic pump= 0.16 cu in DYNAMIC GPF1027PC HYD PUMP item #9-7764-B price=$88 [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Pumps/Gear-Pumps/0-16-cu-in-DYNAMIC-GPF1027PC-HYD-PUMP-9-7764-B.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Pumps/Gear-Pumps/0-16-cu-in-DYNAMIC-GPF1027PC-HYD-PUMP-9-7764-B.axd[/url] Motor to pump mount= 56C / 143-145TC MOTOR TO SAE AA 2 BOLT PUMP MOUNT item #1-3895 price=$33 [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/Hydra-Mount/56C-143-145TC-MOTOR-TO-SAE-AA-2-BOLT-PUMP-MOUNT-1-3895.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/Hydra-Mount/56C-143-145TC-MOTOR-TO-SAE-AA-2-BOLT-PUMP-MOUNT-1-3895.axd[/url] Two button DA Remote= PENDANT KG12 PB REMOTE CONTROL item #9-1441-d price=$44 [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Switches/Pushbutton-Switches/PENDANT-KG12-PB-REMOTE-CONTROL-FOR-9-1480-9-1441-D.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Switches/Pushbutton-Switches/PENDANT-KG12-PB-REMOTE-CONTROL-FOR-9-1480-9-1441-D.axd[/url] Dual Acting solenoid valve=120 VAC 10 GPM CC DA SOLENOID VALVE item #9-7237 price=$170 or 120 VAC 10 GPM OC DA SOLENOID VALVE item #9-7235 price=$155 [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Solenoid-Valves/120-VAC-10-GPM-CC-DA-SOLENOID-VALVE-9-7237.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Solenoid-Valves/120-VAC-10-GPM-CC-DA-SOLENOID-VALVE-9-7237.axd[/url] 1 STATION DO3 SUBPLATE OPEN CENTER or closed center to mount da solenoid valve to manifold item #9-5883-1 or #9-4070-1 price= $36 [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Adapters-Fittings/Subplates/1-STATION-DO3-PARALLEL-CC-SUBPLATE-9-4070-1.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Adapters-Fittings/Subplates/1-STATION-DO3-PARALLEL-CC-SUBPLATE-9-4070-1.axd[/url] 2x HIRSCHMANN CONNECTOR item #11-2457 price= $5 each [url=http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Valve-Parts-Accessories/HIRSCHMANN-CONNECTOR-11-2457.axd]http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Valve-Parts-Accessories/HIRSCHMANN-CONNECTOR-11-2457.axd[/url] Total being around $740ish and I would still need some hoses and possibly a inline filter. So my questions are 1: Which motor is better for a tube bender, one with 3450rpm or one with 1800rpm. ( I've read the 1800rpm will have more shaft torque. is this true and does it matter for a bender?) 2: for the Dual acting solenoid valve should it be a closed center one (all ports blocked in neutral) item#9-7237 or a open center one (work ports blocked in neutral) item#9-7235 or open center (all ports open to tank in neutral) item#9-7236 3: am I missing any parts on my 2nd route to make this work and do I have the right parts. 4: does the hydraulic pump look to be adequate? not to slow but not so fast I cant make accurate identical bends? Im wanting to be able to bend 1.75 - 2" x .25 wall just to be overkill Thanks again, any info or help on this subject is greatly appreciated. Any info you think im missing let me know and ill try and clarify. I tried to post pics of the parts but it didn't work.so I posted links. ill try again [/QUOTE]
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