Just another XJ

onepieceatatime · Mar 28, 2017

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D30s aren't bad if ya drive smart and keep your tire size right. I'd keep running them until I had the money for tons.

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The Luke · Mar 28, 2017

So 38's are bad?

TBItoy · Mar 28, 2017

The Luke said:
Darn all you! You're in my head now. Hell if I know my what to do. My only concern with the super duty axles is turning this into a money pit. Couple hundred Here and there add up real fast. Only reason I even snagged these is they are basically ready to roll and the price is right. Y'all talk like they're a pair of d30's.

I mean, the shafts are Dana 30 size...
All it takes is a shaft/joint upgrade in the 44 and your at real one ton money.

An old rear 30 spline Dana 60 has all the weight of a one ton and all the strength of a Toyota.

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And Ford/Dana has drop in 1550 shaft assemblies for the standard F250/350 axles.... for under $400 for the whole axle. Granted they are still OEM material 1.5" 35 spline, but the 1550 axle joint should be a decent upgrade over the regular 1480 stuff. Mine will be here Friday :****:

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ranger11 · Mar 28, 2017

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Mdo817 wheeled for years with chromolly shafts and alloy USA ujoint, in a xj never broke a shaft but had a cap failure I think. I will get him to chime in. He was running 38.5 tsls. Maybe he'll post some pics of his as it was leaf sprung as well.

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Zjman · Mar 28, 2017

Dana 30 and the 44 share the same ujoint so your only gaining a small shaft diameter, I'm that guy who put way too much money in a d30 and yeah it's pretty tough for the size but I wasted my money, o run 36's and have broken prob 6 shafts in 5 years, my buddy ran the 44 like the one you bought in a 4.3 v6 Yj on 38.5's and exploded the 44. I'd get a set of 60's and be done

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mdo817 · Mar 28, 2017

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ranger11 said:
Mdo817 wheeled for years with chromolly shafts and alloy USA ujoint, in a xj never broke a shaft but had a cap failure I think. I will get him to chime in. He was running 38.5 tsls. Maybe he'll post some pics of his as it was leaf sprung as well.

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Yep, I spit a cap once, which got the shaft ears, 10 Factory replaced them, tack welded the caps and rocked on.

muddinmetal · Mar 28, 2017

A 44 is just a stop gap, but a good deal is a good deal

mdo817 · Mar 28, 2017

muddinmetal said:
A 44 is just a stop gap, but a good deal is a good deal

I totally agree ^^^

paradisepwoffrd · Mar 28, 2017

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http://www.nandsautoparts.com.

According to their site, they have an 06 sd60, 4.10 for $500. Knox has 5 or so 3.73s for ~$300. About same money for their rears too.

tonybolton · Mar 29, 2017

With all the D44 love....I broke alota stuff in a D44 with 35" tires and was also able to kill an 8.8 shaft and R&P on separate occasions with 37's.

I'm not even gonna count the 5+ Warn premium GOLD lock out hubs I had on the D44 that exploded once a month. I remember everyone telling me, "I aint never seen the premiums break before!"

The Luke · Mar 29, 2017

Well, looks like my next step is to list some axles for sale and see what kinda magic I can make happen. What's the going rate?

tonybolton · Mar 29, 2017

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I would be more confident in stock one tons vs fully built 1/2 tons.

I wheel alot with a 3 Link front / leaf rear XJ on tons/39reds. Rig goes every where. Drives back on trailer at end of day.

BLGXJ · Mar 29, 2017

The Luke said:
Well, looks like my next step is to list some axles for sale and see what kinda magic I can make happen. What's the going rate?

That is actually how I paid for my 60, bought a 77 f-150 dana 44 for cheap and resold it. If you're on Facebook I would go find some jeep or Cherokee specific groups and post them there, starting around $700.

TBItoy · Mar 29, 2017

The Luke said:
Well, looks like my next step is to list some axles for sale and see what kinda magic I can make happen. What's the going rate?

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TBItoy said:
Clean them 3/4 tons up and hose em down with semi gloss black and sell them for $800 on craiglist

tonybolton said:
I would be more confident in stock one tons vs fully built 1/2 tons.

I wheel alot with a 3 Link front / leaf rear XJ on tons/39reds. Rig goes every where. Drives back on trailer at end of day.

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Mongo44 · Mar 29, 2017

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tonybolton said:
Tyler at Rock Solid Fab makes a nice kit. I think he's in Chattanooga.

Tyler is a good guy. He builds tons of XJs so he can recommend good options. FYI... he will tell you he knows everything. Literally everything. Be prepared for that.

The Luke · Mar 29, 2017

TBItoy said:
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Atta boy.... that's why we keep you around.

TBItoy · Mar 29, 2017

The Luke said:
Atta boy.... that's why we keep you around.

I can make like traveler and patooyee and :gtfo:

The Luke · Mar 29, 2017

TBItoy said:
I can make like traveler and patooyee and :gtfo:

Lol nah just giving you hell

jeeptj99 · Mar 29, 2017

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Mongo44 said:
Tyler is a good guy. He builds tons of XJs so he can recommend good options. FYI... he will tell you he knows everything. Literally everything. Be prepared for that.

But he does :rolf: :rolf:

You've seen my dana 44, I've broke it once because of the design of the rcv snap ring. The green xj that was with me at CFR runs the exact same thing I do on 37" and beats the **** out of it and he's only broke 1 and I still say it's because the Detroit let go. All that being said: if I could do mine over again, i'd do tons and not got in a hurry.

paradisepwoffrd · Mar 29, 2017

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If i was going 05+ sd60 front i would consider using the stock radius arm mounts for the 3 link. That is, if you can still fit a coil spring around them for the xj

The Luke · Dec 5, 2017

Been a while since I updated this. I beat on the jeep a bit more. Finally broke an axle shaft and decided to stick to my guns and not sink a penny into the stock axles. So I sold the 44/60 combo and decided to find an 05+ sd 60. Found one with 4.10’s on the cheap. Now I’m hunting a 4.10 14 bolt. I’ll regear eventually. For now I’ll just run it and deal with the lack of power

I’m going to reuse the stock sd brackets as Paradisepwoffrd suggested. For now though I’m going with the ruffstuff radius arm kit. It was on sale 25% off for Black Friday and I jumped on it. I tried piecing it together for less and couldn’t get close.

Can’t wait for New Years ish when I’ll be taking it up to Eric (Bronco72). I’m going to let him set it up for me. I trust his welds a lot more than my own.

Gamble · Dec 5, 2017

Coming right along Luke, I'm still hunting for some tires for ya, I'm not sure what the budget is for wheels and tires but someone on here threw up a set of TMI bead locks I believe.

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The Luke · Dec 5, 2017

More than likely tires and wheels will be on hold til after I sell mine. Which I hope to happen after I list mine. Which theoretically will be as soon as I drop it off at Eric’s with nothing underneath it. Whatever mine sell for will be what my wheel and tire budget is. I’m hoping for the $600 range. Shouldn’t be too hard since my tires are dang near brand new.

Bronco72 · Dec 7, 2017

U got a lot of faith in my booger welds! Lol

The Luke · Dec 11, 2017

I’ve seen that eb do a lot of donuts. It’ll hold up to following Tony on the access trails.

The Luke · Jan 20, 2018

Thanks for the crane Selvy! That works way better than winching up a tree!

Started the swap today. It’s up to Eric now. I’ll probably be competing against TC, burkey and all those other guys next year.... hahaha

muddycreek · Feb 16, 2018

Updates? New Pics?

The Luke · Feb 16, 2018

It’s coming right along. Eric is knocking this thing out. He does some dang good work. Rear end is in. Front end is mocked up. Lincoln lockers installed. Sye is done. Master cylinder is swapped out for a dodge 3500. Still gotta knock out unibody stiffeners, hydro assist, driveshafts and a few other odds and ends.