Ls oiling

smitty0u812 · Jul 14, 2017

Can some one tell my why every one talks about modifying the oiling system of a ls engine /oil pan and y do u need to do it

jccarter1 · Jul 14, 2017

Stock pan is cast aluminium they break easy and they don't have any baffles I have hand great luck with my kevco pan for last 2 years and it has been at every angle you can think about

TBItoy · Jul 14, 2017

Truck pans are really deep and hang down a lot

car pans are really shallow and starve for oil on angles

SkinnyPedalRacing · Jul 15, 2017

Re:

G8 pan is an 8qt rear sump pan. Improved racing has baffling that will bolt into it.

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redneckengineered · Jul 15, 2017

jccarter1 said:
Stock pan is cast aluminium they break easy and they don't have any baffles I have hand great luck with my kevco pan for last 2 years and it has been at every angle you can think about

Hrm, maybe if you use it as a skid plate too? Stock aluminum pan is a beast of a pan actually. Casting is super thick. Nothing wrong with it. I run a Mast Motorsports pan which is basically a clone of the F body stock pan, it is aluminum and has the baffling built in. I also run an 1.5 qt accumulator for piece of mind. There's not really an "LS oiling problem" so to speak, it's just that they are high performance motors and we twist them up more than ever these days so it's smart to take precautions.

kmcminn · Jul 15, 2017

redneckengineered said:
Hrm, maybe if you use it as a skid plate too? Stock aluminum pan is a beast of a pan actually. Casting is super thick. Nothing wrong with it. I run a Mast Motorsports pan which is basically a clone if the F body stock pan, it is aluminum and has the baffling built in. I also run an 1.5 qt accumulator for piece of mind. There's not really an "LS oiling problem" so to speak, it's just that they are high performance motors and we twist them up more than ever these days so it's smart to take precautions.

Yeah I was told a stock f body oil pan is good. I am running that pan with a 3 quart accumulator.

redneckengineered · Jul 15, 2017

kmcminn said:
Yeah I was told a stock f body oil pan is good. I am running that pan with a 3 quart accumulator.

You were told right.

TBItoy · Jul 15, 2017

I think the "Problem" people think of is using a stock F body or Corvette pan (because those were the first LS motors that were widely available and popular to swap) with no additional baffling, accumulator, etc. Plus twisting the **** out of them, because an LS will take it.

Even the "car guys" have to make oiling provisions on cars that get driven hard (especially cars that see track days and such)

Dirt700 · Jul 15, 2017

I'm planning on running a champ pan. There used to be a thread on here somewhere, and someone was using this one
http://www.champpans.com/products/p/ls1000/

1tfrot · Jul 15, 2017

yep. f-body with racing baffle kit in mine.

civicmindedex79 · Jul 17, 2017

I didn't do any race baffles but I had a F-Body pan on mine and ruined a set of bearings because of it (in my opinion). The front sump if I am thinking correctly is not a good design for what we do (again in my opinion). I bought a truck pan and liked it much better until it got hit in a race and busted. So I ordered a Pacific Fab pan. Was it expensive yes but is it worth it to have a solid steel pan with built in skid plates and extra oil capacity I believe so. To each their own just my experience.

redneckengineered · Jul 17, 2017

civicmindedex79 said:
I didn't do any race baffles but I had a F-Body pan on mine and ruined a set of bearings because of it (in my opinion). The front sump if I am thinking correctly is not a good design for what we do (again in my opinion). I bought a truck pan and liked it much better until it got hit in a race and busted. So I ordered a Pacific Fab pan. Was it expensive yes but is it worth it to have a solid steel pan with built in skid plates and extra oil capacity I believe so. To each their own just my experience.

F-body is rear sump. F-body and truck pan are really similar in design, it is just the truck pan is deeper. You are right about the front sump design though, not a good idea for a rock buggy.

kmcminn · Jul 17, 2017

Y'all running stock oil pumps?

redneckengineered · Jul 17, 2017

kmcminn said:
Y'all running stock oil pumps?

My stroker has a melling high volume. It is what Mast puts on them.

wizzo · Jul 17, 2017

smitty0u812 said:
Can some one tell my why every one talks about modifying the oiling system of a ls engine /oil pan and y do u need to do it

The stock truck oil pan is a great pan but it hangs too low for most buggies. When I built my buggy 5 years ago, I went with a Kevko. There were not as many options then as now. I've had zero issues with my pan BUT it has a remote oil filter set up. Next time, I would rather not have the extra lines if possible.

kmcminn said:
Y'all running stock oil pumps?

I had a stock oil pump **** the bed on me and cost me a bottom end. I went back with a Texas Speed oil pump. Now I think they just sell the melling high volume.

the_white_shadow · Jul 17, 2017

Running an f-body pan with the improved racing baffle. I also overfill it about a qt for piece of mind. No issues at any angle.

civicmindedex79 · Jul 17, 2017

redneckengineered said:
F-body is rear sump. F-body and truck pan are really similar in design, it is just the truck pan is deeper. You are right about the front sump design though, not a good idea for a rock buggy.

Maybe I am thinking wrong. Mine is out of a 2000 Camaro Z28 and I could of swore it had a front sump but maybe not. That's been forever ago.

kmcminn · Jul 17, 2017

I have a Melling high volume in this 6.2.

redneckengineered said:
My stroker has a melling high volume. It is what Mast puts on them.

How much oil pressure your motor run?

redneckengineered · Jul 17, 2017

kmcminn said:
I have a Melling high volume in this 6.2.

How much oil pressure your motor run?

Hot idle is like 40psi IIRC. It climbs quick under throttle. Cold start is 50-60psi.

kmcminn · Jul 17, 2017

redneckengineered said:
Hot idle is like 40psi IIRC. It climbs quick under throttle. Cold start is 50-60psi.

Cool.

JohnnyJ · Jul 19, 2017

Dirt700 said:
I'm planning on running a champ pan. There used to be a thread on here somewhere, and someone was using this one
http://www.champpans.com/products/p/ls1000/

Used a champ pan on my last build. 99% sure I'll use one again. Sealed up well. Held oil pressure on climbs as well as a truck pan. Liked that they had stock type oil filter mount rather than having the extra plumbing of going remote.

My understanding is that it's the same pan as the Pac Fab pan without the extra skid plate material.

Dirt700 · Jul 19, 2017

JohnnyJ said:
Used a champ pan on my last build. 99% sure I'll use one again. Sealed up well. Held oil pressure on climbs as well as a truck pan. Liked that they had stock type oil filter mount rather than having the extra plumbing of going remote.

My understanding is that it's the same pan as the Pac Fab pan without the extra skid plate material.

Thanks for the input, it seems like a good pan for the price