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<blockquote data-quote="wngrog" data-source="post: 19157"><p>There are some excellent points brought up in this thread. Some I totally agree with and some I would challenge you to reconsider.</p><p>Before I wade into this, I think it is important to get my "street creds" in line with you guys. </p><p></p><p>I hold a degree in Political Science and a Masters in Political Science (Intelligence and Terrorism). </p><p></p><p>I spent 10 years in the USAF and served in Desert Storm and the Balkin Conflict. I lived in Germany, Guam, Turkey, Italy, Saudi Arabia and South Korea during that time This does not include 12 other countries I spent more than 2 weeks and less than 2 months in.</p><p></p><p>I spent 10 years after that in a Fortune 50 company.</p><p></p><p>I currently am a small business owner.</p><p></p><p>I watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh. I read the New York Times for the counter-argument every day. I hear both sides of the argument.</p><p></p><p>I am not a Democrat nor a Republican, I am a REGAN conservative. I believe in a Strong military, a small government and individual rights.</p><p></p><p>The reason I asked you to state what you find wrong with this country is that the current Media Blitz that you and I are getting is that we need CHANGE. Has anyone here noticed that 3 months ago, all you heard about was Iraq? Wow, the surge starts working over there and *POOF*, those headlines dissappear to be replaced with news of the economy.</p><p></p><p>I am FAR from being an economist, but to be politically informed, I feel I need to have some idea of what is going on in our great economy. Since 9/11, we have seen ecomomic growth in this country EVERY quarter. The current economic problems are mainly twofold: 1) Fuel Prices 2) Morgage/Housing issues.</p><p></p><p>The current fuel prices we are seeing are here to stay. We can afford it. In 1990 when I was living in Germany, a gallon of gas cost $3. That was 18 years ago. The cost to produce a gallon of gas is rising. It is harder to find, ship and refine now than ever before. We have to dig deeper, make longer pipelines and use AGNG refineries to make the end product. The one thing most folks don't know is that over 1/2 of the cost of your fuel is TAXES. These kind of taxes are OK, they are the type of taxes that hi those that use the roads the most. If you don't drive or heat your home with fuel you don't pay. Not a bad deal seeing that we all pay for public schools whether or not we use them or not. There is so much to say on this subject I cannot think of typing it all out, but the short-term fix is this. DRILL FOR OIL where you can get it without dealing with the Middle East. ANWAR in NE Alaska has a reserve of oil as big as Iran's. The liberals won't let us drill there for fear we will disturb the Porcupine Caribou's mating habits. nancy Pelosi won't let us drill off the coast of CA because the Kalifornians don't want to see those ugly ass dereks out there. We have not built a new Nuclear plant or refinery in this country in 20 yrs. Alternative fuels are awesome as is conservation, but that will not help us in the short term. Leave that to the free market (no govt mandated BS like Ethanol) and we will get that right too, just like the US has for the last 200+ years.</p><p></p><p>Morgage/Housing.........the govt told the banks they needed to make home ownership more readily available to the lower income folks. Loans were made on interest only and ARM terms that were barely sustainable with all of the welfare, crack sales or non-existant child care payments about 5 years ago. Those loand all defaulted about the same time. Govt gets involved in the free market and the **** it up every time. Housing......WTF makes a 1200SQ FT crackerbox in Compton CA worth 300 a sq ft? That market needed adjusting and it needed it BAD. Too bad it happened at the same time the sub-prime morgage world took a dump. If you still have an ARM, get the fuc out of it. That is a lose-lose. Some interest is not bad too pay. Pay off the credit cards and keep the mortgage...you can write that off....</p><p></p><p>I am going to read some of the comments above and let you know my thoughts....more to come....wife and kids are out and I have a whole bottle of Coppola Zinfadel <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wngrog, post: 19157"] There are some excellent points brought up in this thread. Some I totally agree with and some I would challenge you to reconsider. Before I wade into this, I think it is important to get my "street creds" in line with you guys. I hold a degree in Political Science and a Masters in Political Science (Intelligence and Terrorism). I spent 10 years in the USAF and served in Desert Storm and the Balkin Conflict. I lived in Germany, Guam, Turkey, Italy, Saudi Arabia and South Korea during that time This does not include 12 other countries I spent more than 2 weeks and less than 2 months in. I spent 10 years after that in a Fortune 50 company. I currently am a small business owner. I watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh. I read the New York Times for the counter-argument every day. I hear both sides of the argument. I am not a Democrat nor a Republican, I am a REGAN conservative. I believe in a Strong military, a small government and individual rights. The reason I asked you to state what you find wrong with this country is that the current Media Blitz that you and I are getting is that we need CHANGE. Has anyone here noticed that 3 months ago, all you heard about was Iraq? Wow, the surge starts working over there and *POOF*, those headlines dissappear to be replaced with news of the economy. I am FAR from being an economist, but to be politically informed, I feel I need to have some idea of what is going on in our great economy. Since 9/11, we have seen ecomomic growth in this country EVERY quarter. The current economic problems are mainly twofold: 1) Fuel Prices 2) Morgage/Housing issues. The current fuel prices we are seeing are here to stay. We can afford it. In 1990 when I was living in Germany, a gallon of gas cost $3. That was 18 years ago. The cost to produce a gallon of gas is rising. It is harder to find, ship and refine now than ever before. We have to dig deeper, make longer pipelines and use AGNG refineries to make the end product. The one thing most folks don't know is that over 1/2 of the cost of your fuel is TAXES. These kind of taxes are OK, they are the type of taxes that hi those that use the roads the most. If you don't drive or heat your home with fuel you don't pay. Not a bad deal seeing that we all pay for public schools whether or not we use them or not. There is so much to say on this subject I cannot think of typing it all out, but the short-term fix is this. DRILL FOR OIL where you can get it without dealing with the Middle East. ANWAR in NE Alaska has a reserve of oil as big as Iran's. The liberals won't let us drill there for fear we will disturb the Porcupine Caribou's mating habits. nancy Pelosi won't let us drill off the coast of CA because the Kalifornians don't want to see those ugly ass dereks out there. We have not built a new Nuclear plant or refinery in this country in 20 yrs. Alternative fuels are awesome as is conservation, but that will not help us in the short term. Leave that to the free market (no govt mandated BS like Ethanol) and we will get that right too, just like the US has for the last 200+ years. Morgage/Housing.........the govt told the banks they needed to make home ownership more readily available to the lower income folks. Loans were made on interest only and ARM terms that were barely sustainable with all of the welfare, crack sales or non-existant child care payments about 5 years ago. Those loand all defaulted about the same time. Govt gets involved in the free market and the **** it up every time. Housing......WTF makes a 1200SQ FT crackerbox in Compton CA worth 300 a sq ft? That market needed adjusting and it needed it BAD. Too bad it happened at the same time the sub-prime morgage world took a dump. If you still have an ARM, get the fuc out of it. That is a lose-lose. Some interest is not bad too pay. Pay off the credit cards and keep the mortgage...you can write that off.... I am going to read some of the comments above and let you know my thoughts....more to come....wife and kids are out and I have a whole bottle of Coppola Zinfadel :) [/QUOTE]
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