Real world test results with Franks Goop

JOOP · Mar 21, 2012

OK well Today I pulled apart the Hub I put together a year ago with Franks Goop.

There was some slight seepage (looks damp) but that was from me. A few weeks ago I attempted to tear the hub apart in my PJ's but then decided to wait for a better day. So I didn't tighten down all the bolts, you can see one is still backed out about a 1/4". Since then I have been on two trips both times the hubs were completely under water.

Ok lets get started.

I broke the bolts loose for the end piece and it started to leak out what looked like used oil.

Popped off the end piece and didn't find any water. The internals actually looked well lubed and clean.

Slid off the center piece.

A look inside at the bearings and lock rings

For some reason there was build up on top of the spindle locks. Kinda like a foamy goop.

Pulled off the lock ring

The bearings

A peak at the race

JOOP · Mar 21, 2012

The spindle

It looks like the spindle leaked a tiny tiny bit past Bobby Longs Poly seal.

Cleaned up it looks fine. I'll just lube it with Synthetic red grease again.

The inner bearing and hub seal. Doesn't look like it leaked.

The outer shaft. The spindle seal was lubed with Red synthetic axle grease. Not much but enough. Some of it mixed with Franks Goop but it all cleaned up really easy.

You can see the lines from the grease channels on Bobbys Poly seal,

So overall,
Franks goop worked just as he said it would. The bearings and seals all were properly lubed. The stuff cleans up really nice but is a PITA to install, maybe not so much on a Toyota axle because you have a fill plug. But trying to put it in a Dana hub is not so easy, do-able but you need a grease pump.

The only thing I could see is it appeared to be broken down. There was an obvious oil liquid separation and then a gel substance.

I hate to say it and I'll be honest but I'm going to run it in both hubs this time when I put everything back together. I don't see a problem running his stuff. I don't think it would leak out past the wiper seal on a Toyota spindle either. It'll look damp but I don't think it'll leak.

So there you go make your own decision, but this was some real world testing that went on over a dozen runs this past year. Submerged under water over a dozen times or more, ran through mud, playing on the rocks over a dozen times, and ran at high speeds in all temperatures typical to the PNW.

~Joop

zukkev · Mar 21, 2012

You obviously weren't running the wipers on the stub axle...all that dirt/crap near Bobby's spindle bushing tells the story...

TreeClimber · Mar 21, 2012

Couldn't give a crap about Frank's goop.
How did the detroit look?

RusM · Mar 21, 2012

WHy's it better than whatever you'd normally put in there? :eeek:

JOOP · Mar 21, 2012

RusM said:
WHy's it better than whatever you'd normally put in there? :eeek:

Not saying it is. I'm just saying I would run it.

JOOP · Mar 21, 2012

zukkev said:
You obviously weren't running the wipers on the stub axle...all that dirt/crap near Bobby's spindle bushing tells the story...

There is no wiper on a Dana 44 hub.

JOOP · Mar 21, 2012

TreeClimber said:
Couldn't give a crap about Frank's goop.
How did the detroit look?

It's coming out right now.

zukkev · Mar 21, 2012

JOOP said:
There is no wiper on a Dana 44 hub.

....Ummm, yeah, there is...But it's not the hub...

Taken from WFO Concept's site......
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...q6iIBQ&usg=AFQjCNEDxa9WF1yai8jZh1SWE7F81KEFGQ
The largest rubber seal is the wiper seal....slips over a shoulder on the stub, and rubs that flat machined surface around the spindle bushing (The area that's covered in mud/dirt in your pics...

JOOP · Mar 21, 2012

zukkev said:
....Ummm, yeah, there is...But it's not the hub...

Taken from WFO Concept's site......
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...q6iIBQ&usg=AFQjCNEDxa9WF1yai8jZh1SWE7F81KEFGQ
The largest rubber seal is the wiper seal....slips over a shoulder on the stub, and rubs that flat machined surface around the spindle bushing (The area that's covered in mud/dirt in your pics...

Yes its on the inner spindle, but I'm running Bobby's plastic poly bearing less bushings.

zuk88 · Mar 21, 2012

When I got my bushings from Longfield it said there is no need to use the rubber seals any more.I will double check the instructions again though because I haven't torn into my front end yet.

JOOP · Mar 21, 2012

TreeClimber said:
Couldn't give a crap about Frank's goop.
How did the detroit look?

TreeClimber · Mar 22, 2012

JOOP said:

You're screwed.
I think I'd look at buying a whole new carrier, might be cheaper.

JOOP · Mar 22, 2012

Nah last time it ran me about 160 bucks. Same pieces

Sent by that electronic thing we call a phone...

longfield · Mar 24, 2012

zukkev said:
....Ummm, yeah, there is...But it's not the hub...

Taken from WFO Concept's site......
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...q6iIBQ&usg=AFQjCNEDxa9WF1yai8jZh1SWE7F81KEFGQ
The largest rubber seal is the wiper seal....slips over a shoulder on the stub, and rubs that flat machined surface around the spindle bushing (The area that's covered in mud/dirt in your pics...

Yes you need to run the big rubber seal like this one in the pic. here. You need to try to get the stub shaft tight up against the spindle by shimming the outer snap rings on the stub shaft. I would not use that goop i would use grease like it calls for. If you ever have any questions you can call me anytime 253-847-8254 Bobby.

ricks · Mar 24, 2012

longfield said:
Yes you need to run the big rubber seal like this one in the pic. here. You need to try to get the stub shaft tight up against the spindle by shimming the outer snap rings on the stub shaft. I would not use that goop i would use grease like it calls for. If you ever have any questions you can call me anytime 253-847-8254 Bobby.

Don't forget the slinger also, I did not see one in the pic.

zukkev · Mar 24, 2012

The slinger would be the plastic disc in the pic I posted earlier, I suppose you could run that against Bobby's bushing, no?

RusM · Mar 24, 2012

Fourwheel said:
I would not run the plastic bushing, I would use the bearing and seal like it calls for,

::stirpot:

If you have any questions you can call me anytime 208-687-8515

Frank

I wonder if Tranny is the type of guy that goes insane over prank phone calls? :haha:

whatthe? · Mar 24, 2012

Fourwheel said:
If battling with brainwashed online wheeling dipshits didn't,,

I don't imagine prank phone calls will,,

:cheer:

Fancis is lonely, he'd like the attention. Prefers males, deep breathing appreciated. His goop may work, we know grease works, people with bad seals know 90w works. Wow frank, you really changed the wheeling world.

ricks · Mar 24, 2012

zukkev said:
The slinger would be the plastic disc in the pic I posted earlier, I suppose you could run that against Bobby's bushing, no?

Kev I was talking about the metal slinger that presses on up against the yoke and then run just the wiper seal and from what I see that is all you need.