the new fattness...

[Berne]

Is there any room to brace the lowers back to the frame? Or does the 205 become permanently installed at that point?

I intend to do something w/ those....

and it's kinda a crap shoot at that point whether or not I can pull the t-cases....

I'm figuring.....when it comes to that, I'll try to wiggle them out around the side of the tranny a little, and if I can't get them out.....then at that point I'll cut that rear cross tube, and put it back together as a bolted in piece....

--B

 

[Hip]

and then....

no more and then


berne looking good i hope ya make it for GD. any chance you and the circus could take a few days after GD for some funnyrocks moonrocks action? i have a mom sitter for a few days on either end of that weekend.

 

[Berne]

no more and then


berne looking good i hope ya make it for GD. any chance you and the circus could take a few days after GD for some funnyrocks moonrocks action? i have a mom sitter for a few days on either end of that weekend.

I'd love to hippy.....

but I'm still not sure if the new rig is gonna make it to GD......

and I'm damned sure that if it does.....its not gonna be 'done'....

 

[Erik D_lux]

Does your uppers allow for plenty of flex? I know that bushing/rod ends on a link will work but the way you mounted your uppers at the axle kinda act like the suspension is already flexed when level and then just gets worse from there?

 

[saf-t scissors1]

Does your uppers allow for plenty of flex? I know that bushing/rod ends on a link will work but the way you mounted your uppers at the axle kinda act like the suspension is already flexed when level and then just gets worse from there?

Just because they're not parallel with the ground doesn't mean they're "flexed". The bushing itself is normalized, doesn't have any forces (bind) in it when the truck is sitting still and square.

 

[Erik D_lux]

Just because they're not parallel with the ground doesn't mean they're "flexed". The bushing itself is normalized, doesn't have any forces (bind) in it when the truck is sitting still and square.

Yep your right now that I look at it again.

Just looks like it dosent get much travel before the rod end is flexed out.

 

[binderbound]

I saw it this weekend and its not gonna have any trouble flexing.

Bern,I have the technology to keep pictures going on this thread while your off work.I was gonna come down and help you a few days during the week(if you want).

 

[Berne]

Yep your right now that I look at it again.

Just looks like it dosent get much travel before the rod end is flexed out.

w/ just the single rod end (bushing on the other end) w/ the high-misalignment spacers I've got, its got WAY more potential travel than I'll prolly ever be able/want to afford springs/shocks for....

that was also my biggest concern Erik, w/ just having rod ends at one end of the tube.....but its not going to have any sort of issues like that. I suppose if I were building a ramp queen, eventually it would raise some issues, but at the relatively tame amount of travel I'm looking to get out of this, I think it'll be just fine...

--B

 

[Berne]

I saw it this weekend and its not gonna have any trouble flexing.

Bern,I have the technology to keep pictures going on this thread while your off work.I was gonna come down and help you a few days during the week(if you want).

sounds good buddy...

--B

 

[Harvester of Sorrow]

Well Scout body or not...Where are the damn pics and update SCOUTBOY Danno........

 

[binderbound]

Jeezus HoS,don't get your zebra print thong in a bunch.we just put an offer in on the new home of tractractor offroad,so things have been crazy.I'll get over there tomorrow.

 

[Harvester of Sorrow]

they are tiger print this year Dan...:flipoff: Good luck on the new place...hope all of that drama works out for you...

 

[saf-t scissors1]

So.... where's the pics?



:flipoff:

 

[Berne]

OK...

so my scout camera/update guy flaked on me.......blame him...:flipoff:

so, I've got a whole ass-load of pics to upload.....bare w/ me

gonna save the better ones for later...


lets start w/ some body work.......
the rockers on this thing are not strong, and I need some place to mount the body to the chassis.....so.....

 

[Berne]

whoever worked on this body before me needs to be drug out in the streets....

this is what the firewall looked like......

:mad: :mad: :wtf:

 

[Berne]

after an entire morning and an entire flapper-disc....

 

[Berne]

so......

some mock-up....

 

[Berne]

making up something for the rear of the chassis...

 

[Berne]

and then......


well, I stopped taking as many pics.....and it gets a little jumpy...

 

[Berne]

and then.....

 

[Berne]

and now how it sits in the driveway as I left the house this morning....


its coming along pretty good.....but it ain't gonna make goldendale....

 

[Berne]

so.....

its coming along nicely.....I'm really pretty happy w/ the way its turning out...

I think the rear TJ springs are going to work pretty well in the back.....there's no weight back there......even w/ the cab and the tube work that's there, 2 guys can lift the whole weight of the chassis from the rear....
but, I NEED some taller springs.....the rear TJ spring rate I think will work out good, but the stockers are WAY short.....I need some 4"-ish springs to put back there.....and need them soon....

also am going to need some shocks for back there....the ones I had in the rear are going to be way short....suggestions???.....long, cheap, and high-quality.........or, the best comprimise of the 3........and no more junk white-can shocks for me...

and.....who's got a good/clever/easy way to mount the TJ springs???....
I'm not sure if I want to fully capture them, or let them fall away a little bit....w/ the way it is now, there's going to be VERY little droop travel from ride height if they are fully captured, as they're only compressed maybe 1.5-2" w/ the weight of the rig...

--B

 

[KarlVP]

What we did on my rear end was mad a little round plate for the spring perch on the axle, this holds the very last coil, to the axle with a bolt going through the middle, and the round plate sandwiching the coil to the axle.

Even if the spring gets maxed out, the coil stays attached to the axle, and when the suspension re compresses, the spring is guided right back into place.

 

[Berne]

then what'd you do at the chassis end??

--B

 

[KarlVP]

Made a rubber "guide" or bumpstop.

The limiting factor in suspension travel for me is my shocks, when they bottom out, no moire suspension droop. The spring can never pass the alow point of the bumpstop so it cant fall out.

Dirball uses chains through his springs. Seems to keep them in place for the most part.

 

[saf-t scissors1]

If you're really that light.... why not air shocks?

Cost-wise, they're close to what a decent set of monotubes cost.... and yeah, they've got drawbacks, but no moreso than 2nd hand TJ springs.

 

[Berne]

If you're really that light.... why not air shocks?

Cost-wise, they're close to what a decent set of monotubes cost.... and yeah, they've got drawbacks, but no moreso than 2nd hand TJ springs.

honestly.......I've really thought about it....

as much as I dislike the air shocks.....they may be a viable alternative for the rear of this thing.....
but I'm going to go w/ the TJ's at first and see how they wind up....

--B

 

[saf-t scissors1]

but I'm going to go w/ the TJ's at first and see how they wind up....

There's only one way to find out....

My gut says you'd be better off with something that had a bit less uncontrolled droop... although it may not matter if you've got plenty of room to stuff the tires. Combine that with a center limiting strap (which I'm guessing you'll want regardless of the springs on it), and it might make good pressure on the drooping side no matter what.

But 2" isn't a whole hell of a lot.....

 

[Erik D_lux]

Maybe see if you could get some air shocks that have a threaded body. That way when you have some more cash you could throw the springs on it.

I think airshocks are getting a bad name. I am almost considering trading my coilovers in for airshocks.

 

[Berne]

Maybe see if you could get some air shocks that have a threaded body. That way when you have some more cash you could throw the springs on it.

I think airshocks are getting a bad name. I am almost considering trading my coilovers in for airshocks.

I dunno that they've got a bad name.....I mean, it seems like everybody runs them now....

I just don't like them......from former experience with them (well before everyone was running them on their rock crawler rigs) putting them on mini-baja cars.....
I just don't like that you can't get any real spring rate out of them w/o alot of pressure in them.....
they're a PITA, and virtually impossible to be able to go fast, and crawl, w/ the same setup..

--B