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<blockquote data-quote="Gibby1" data-source="post: 1079828" data-attributes="member: 15983"><p>This is where the mentality if people like CHOP SHOP will eventually kill the sport if they don't change.</p><p></p><p>- I'll wheel where ever I want.</p><p>- If someone's wheeling off the trail I will NOT do anything about it.</p><p>- If someone's in my way, I'll go off the trail to go around them rather than wait or turn around.</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to go back and find all the threads over the last 6 months that he said this but this is what he said. You may recall one about him getting into it with guys from the dog pound on the swamp trail at Elbe. Guys were stuck so he admitedly drove up through the trees to get get around and the excuse... other people had already gone that way. We talk with him about going the wrong way on the busy and the answer was, "yeah, we know."</p><p></p><p>The really sad part, is that he's not alone in thinking this way. That mentality absolutely MUST change. The idea that rules don't apply when you're out in the woods just doesn't cut it. It's the same withing drinking on the trails. For those of you who do garbarge runs, we all know what the majority of what we pick up along the trail are BEER cans! They're not from hikers, or bikers, they're from wheelers. If they're stupid enough and ignorant enough to drink on the trail and toss their cans out the window it's no wonder they're stupid enough and ignorant enough to drive off the trails, not use tree savers and drive like idiots regardless of resource damage.</p><p></p><p>I know this doesn't apply to everyone but drinking on the trails and stupidity on the trails go hand in hand. I hope the enforcement efforts at Evan's Creek hits hard this year and that they nail a TON of people for drinking and driving on the trails or FS roads. It will literally clean up the filth. We can't separate the cause of the resource damage from the stupidity and ignorance of those who cause it.</p><p></p><p>PS, I drink just in case you thought I had something against drinking.:beer:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gibby1, post: 1079828, member: 15983"] This is where the mentality if people like CHOP SHOP will eventually kill the sport if they don't change. - I'll wheel where ever I want. - If someone's wheeling off the trail I will NOT do anything about it. - If someone's in my way, I'll go off the trail to go around them rather than wait or turn around. I'm not going to go back and find all the threads over the last 6 months that he said this but this is what he said. You may recall one about him getting into it with guys from the dog pound on the swamp trail at Elbe. Guys were stuck so he admitedly drove up through the trees to get get around and the excuse... other people had already gone that way. We talk with him about going the wrong way on the busy and the answer was, "yeah, we know." The really sad part, is that he's not alone in thinking this way. That mentality absolutely MUST change. The idea that rules don't apply when you're out in the woods just doesn't cut it. It's the same withing drinking on the trails. For those of you who do garbarge runs, we all know what the majority of what we pick up along the trail are BEER cans! They're not from hikers, or bikers, they're from wheelers. If they're stupid enough and ignorant enough to drink on the trail and toss their cans out the window it's no wonder they're stupid enough and ignorant enough to drive off the trails, not use tree savers and drive like idiots regardless of resource damage. I know this doesn't apply to everyone but drinking on the trails and stupidity on the trails go hand in hand. I hope the enforcement efforts at Evan's Creek hits hard this year and that they nail a TON of people for drinking and driving on the trails or FS roads. It will literally clean up the filth. We can't separate the cause of the resource damage from the stupidity and ignorance of those who cause it. PS, I drink just in case you thought I had something against drinking.:beer: [/QUOTE]
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