Viper coil springs?

zukimaster · Aug 20, 2016

In the market for coil over's and ran across a package deal that comes with Viper springs, I know most use PAC or Eibach, but anybody ever used them? And if so, did they hold up, thanks for the input. Let me add, they will be goin on a slow poke trail rig, not a KOH race car.

karatejosh · Aug 20, 2016

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I have some viper and some pac they work but they bow more then my pack springs

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natedawgxj · Aug 20, 2016

JUNK..... And PROFENDER coilovers too. Don't make the same mistake I did. Fox coilovers and eibach springs only way to go... :dblthumb:

zukimaster · Aug 20, 2016

For sure going fox, just didn't know about springs, Dave's Off-road has a decent package deal on fox coil overs with viper springs

karatejosh · Aug 20, 2016

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I would get pac springs or eibach do it once do it rigjt

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TRD · Aug 22, 2016

Viper springs are known to bow a lot. Bowing springs will rub on the body and wear it down. I've seen some damn near worn through to the snap ring groove.

The least expensive way to get the correct spring rates is to buy good quality springs from someone who offers spring swapping and spring rate calculations.

zukimaster · Aug 22, 2016

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Thanks for the input guys, guess that's the reason there cheaper!

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TacomaJD · Aug 22, 2016

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zukimaster said:
Thanks for the input guys, guess that's the reason there cheaper!

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My PAC's were great. Ordered my coilovers from EOR and they let me swap the springs once just paying shipping.

KPatterson · Aug 22, 2016

TRD said:
Viper springs are know to bow a lot. Bowing springs will rub on the body and wear it down. I've seen some damn near worn through to the snap ring groove.

The least expensive way to get the correct spring rates is to buy good quality springs from someone who offers spring swapping and spring rate calculations.

Ryan was extremely helpful. He is the man to go to. Looking forwards to getting my Eibachs :dblthumb:

LightBnDr · Aug 24, 2016

TRD said:
Viper springs are known to bow a lot. Bowing springs will rub on the body and wear it down. I've seen some damn near worn through to the snap ring groove.

The least expensive way to get the correct spring rates is to buy good quality springs from someone who offers spring swapping and spring rate calculations.

What if you sleeved the body with 2"-2.5" pvc. Let the pvc free float with the spring? Get fancy and powder coat the pvc so it looks good for 4 rides?

I think you can even find black pvc online just not on lowes or Home Depot

Edit: on second thought you would have to anchor the sleeve at the top of the body. Otherwise the sleeve would drop and bounce off the bottom eyelet of the stanchion tube.

fordcontraption01 · Aug 24, 2016

LightBnDr said:
What if you sleeved the body with 2"-2.5" pvc. Let the pvc free float with the spring? Get fancy and powder coat the pvc so it looks good for 4 rides?

I think you can even find black pvc online just not on lowes or Home Depot

Edit: on second thought you would have to anchor the sleeve at the top of the body. Otherwise the sleeve would drop and bounce off the bottom eyelet of the stanchion tube.

or you could turn the coilovers over like on the front of showgirl buggy! Hey don't lynch me I'm just adding to what was already here lol

kmcminn · Aug 24, 2016

LightBnDr said:
What if you sleeved the body with 2"-2.5" pvc. Let the pvc free float with the spring? Get fancy and powder coat the pvc so it looks good for 4 rides?

I think you can even find black pvc online just not on lowes or Home Depot

Edit: on second thought you would have to anchor the sleeve at the top of the body. Otherwise the sleeve would drop and bounce off the bottom eyelet of the stanchion tube.

Chad just buy some quality ****.

What is the price difference between vipers, packaging and eibach?

WOD carries a pile of Eibach springs in stock.

KPatterson · Aug 24, 2016

Mine were a couple hundred between Pacs and Eibachs

zukimaster · Aug 24, 2016

Have not done much checking, but Dave's Off-road has Fox coil overs with the viper springs for around 375 ish. That's kinda cheap for the whole set up, but if the springs are junk, it doesn't matter.

Jduck · Aug 24, 2016

What other than bowing makes a spring junk?? I've got vipers on my yj and they do what they're supposed to...hold the jeep up.

TacomaJD · Aug 24, 2016

zukimaster said:
Have not done much checking, but Dave's Off-road has Fox coil overs with the viper springs for around 375 ish. That's kinda cheap for the whole set up, but if the springs are junk, it doesn't matter.

I got on Wide Open Design's website, went through and picked Radflo 2.0 14" travel remote reservoir coilovers with springs and it totaled to be $416 for one, that ain't a bad price at all. I have heard several liking and recommending the Radflos. It doesn't say what springs come with it, but I figure if WOD carries it, it ain't junk. And those are remote resi's too.

Plain emulsion (non remote resi) coilover Fox 2.0's with QA1 springs was $460 a piece from WOD.

BUT....chances are you can talk to someone at WOD, or someone here can put in a good word for you, and might get a bit of a discount. That's why I bought mine at EOR ;D

TacomaJD · Aug 24, 2016

Decent read here.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/2165330-foa-coilovers-viper-coils.html

I don't think those are viper coils on that pic of the foa coilover, but that's a clear illustration as to why you don't want springs bowing if vipers do indeed bow. Rubs the hell out of the shock body, hits the dual rate stop ring and probably makes a lot of racket, etc. Too many better choices out there, for less than $200 more to get a high quality product all the way around that will last.

pholmann · Aug 24, 2016

I have vipers on my buggy. Seem to be fine.

TacomaJD · Aug 24, 2016

Honestly, no more than springs cost, you could buy the package from Daves, get your spring rates right, finish the build, wheel the **** out of it and if they give you problems or start sagging, sell/give em away and buy PAC's, Eibachs, etc. - and by then you will already know what spring rates to get from fawking with the Vipers.

TRD · Aug 26, 2016

Getting the right spring rates should be the first thing you do when the buggy is finished. It's the first step in setting up your suspension and it'll prevent you from having loose springs that could damage the shocks.

I don't recommend shocks with nitro steel piston rods for use in the mud (Sway-A-Way and Radflo)
Nitro steel isn't as corrosion resistant as hard chrome and the shafts will rust and pit more quickly.
Fox Factory Series shocks use a chrome plated stainless steel piston rods that are extremely corrosion resistant, making them the best choice for use in the mud.