Canadian wheeling...

crash2 · Mar 23, 2010

The canada thread has brought up some points and the fact that its soo close to the border for us in the PNW..

I would like to hear what you should and should not do. for example like insurance, what you can and can't bring.

I edited this thread because I don't want this to be a topic of legalities on the trails as thats not the point of this thread.

I just want the info so those who venture above the border are prepared...

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

Don't bring guns, fruit or cigarettes.:redneck:

Edit: Cigs are OK.:awesomework:Now I know.

Pook · Mar 23, 2010

You need liability insurance to legally be out there.

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

Pook said:
You need liability insurance to legally be out there.

For a Canadian or an American?

Don't guess the answer......KNOW IT.:;

crash2 · Mar 23, 2010

Once we get a list compiled I will redo this thread to make it easy for those to read :awesomework:

War-Jeeper · Mar 23, 2010

Pook said:
You need liability insurance to legally be out there.

Good to know, i need to add that to the runner once its running again before making a trip across the boarder:awesomework:

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

War-Jeeper said:
Good to know, i need to add that to the runner once its running again before making a trip across the boarder:awesomework:

What kind of liability insurance do you need EXACTLY? What limit? Do Ins. Co.'s from the states even insure people/vehicles in another country? Canada?

I am being facetious, but we have seen no official info as of yet......un-comformed chit-chat.

And I know Pook was just throwing in a helpful tit-bit, but we need cold hard facts that are directly related to Americans traveling in Canada.:awesomework:

War-Jeeper · Mar 23, 2010

Money Mark said:
What kind of liability insurance do you need EXACTLY? What limit? Do Ins. Co.'s from the states even insure people/vehicles in another country? Canada?

I am being facetious, but we have seen no official info as of yet......un-comformed chit-chat.

And I know Pook was just throwing in a helpful tit-bit, but we need cold hard facts that are directly related to Americans traveling in Canada.:awesomework:

That is a good point, and i think it will be different from one insurance company to the next honestly. Only true answer is to call your insurance provider and ask them these questions:awesomework:

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

War-Jeeper said:
Only true answer is to call your insurance provider and ask them these questions:awesomework:

.....and then find out if Canada truly requires this for American ORV use, or not.:;

I think everybody gets what I'm poking at.........:eeek:

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

Travel Information from U.S. Customs & Border Protection
More details are available in the "Traveler Information" section of the official U.S. Customs web site. The "Visiting the US" and the "FAQ" links are a good place to start.

Standard questions you might be asked by a border guard include: "Where are you from?", "Where are you going?", "How long will you be in Canada?" (sound like you know for how long, even if your plans are flexible, and ensure the intended length of your stay is within the legal limit), "What is the purpose of your trip?", and "Are you bringing anything with you that you intend to leave behind?"

Driving across the border
Border officials are on the lookout for stolen cars, or people attempting to avoid paying duties on bought cars. So you will want to be carrying documentation to show you are not perpetrating such scenarios.

Driving a rental car across the US-Canadian border is usually not a problem, so long as you have made this arrangement with the car rental company. Make sure you have a copy of the rental agreement with you, and that is states you have permission to take the vehicle across the border.

If you are driving a private car which isn't registered in the name of someone going on the trip, bring written proof that you have the permission of the owner to take the car into the other country.

Going through U.S. Customs
Visitors who are at least 21 years of age may bring the following into the USA: 200 cigarettes or 50 cigars or 2 kilograms (4.4 lbs.) of tobacco; 1 liter of alcohol; gifts to the value of $100. Different restrictions will apply to returning US residents and citizens.

Going through Canadian Customs
Visitors may bring the following into Canada: 200 cigarettes (= 1 carton), 50 cigars, and 14 ounces of tobacco; 1.1 liters or 40 imperial ounces (= 1 bottle) of liquor or wine, or 24 x 355-milliliter (12-ounce) bottles or cans of beer for personal consumption; gifts up to the value of C$60 per gift. To import tobacco products a person must be 18 years of age or over, and to import alcoholic beverages the importer must have reached the legal age established by authorities of the province. You can bring in a small amount of food for your own consumption.

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

Pets
If you bring a pet dog or cat at least three months old from the United States, you must have a certificate to show that the animal has been vaccinated against rabies within the last three years. The certificate has to be dated and signed by a veterinarian, and it must identify the animal by breed, age, sex, coloring, and any distinguishing marks. Animal tags are not acceptable in place of certificates.

If you bring a pet dog or cat under three months old from the United States, or a guide dog from any country, you do not need a certificate, but the animal has to be in good health when it arrives.

Dogs must be vaccinated against rabies at least 30 days before entering the United States. This requirement does not apply, however, to puppies less than three months of age or to dogs originating or located for at least six months in areas designated by the U.S. Public Health Service as being rabies-free.

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

If you were convicted of or committed a criminal offence outside Canada, you may overcome this criminal inadmissibility

Money Mark · Mar 23, 2010

Like that, yes?

super samurai · Mar 23, 2010

sooo! do you need insurance on your wheeling rig? even if it's a non street legal tagged buggy?

Indefatigable · Mar 23, 2010

There are no ORVs up here except what you use on your own private property. Or a boat

Otherwise, all vehicles are road going and for your use, is for forest service road use.

The sign below pretty much spells out what you need.

Furthermore:

"MOTORIZED USE OF A FOREST SERVICE ROAD IS SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE MOTOR VEHICLE ACT"

Many have experienced different enforcement levels of this. The letter of the law says you need a licence plate, marker lights, etc. ie full street legal as the forest road is classified as a "highway".

Fun stuff.

super samurai · Mar 23, 2010

insurance on the trailer also! so everyone that went last week has insurance on their rig and trailer?

Mark m. · Mar 24, 2010

super samurai said:
insurance on the trailer also! so everyone that went last week has insurance on their rig and trailer?

I have insurance on my trailer but it looks like I took to much beer

I think this is getting blown way out of proportion. If this **** bothers you don't go. Hell I break more laws on this side than in Canada.

crash2 · Mar 24, 2010

Mark m. said:
I have insurance on my trailer but it looks like I took to much beer
I think this is getting blown way out of proportion. If this **** bothers you don't go. Hell I break more laws on this side than in Canada.

It doesn't matter if its blown out of perportion or not mark. the fact of the matter is folks will know and can make there own decisions based on it.

I personally would rather know what I am up against.

Would you rather have something horrible go wrong and be prepared for it than not? You do that all the time on the trail/gets you out. Why not apply that same thought process to and from the trail.

Jay Luke · Mar 24, 2010

Yes. I think what folks on here are forgetting is that the MOST important thing to have while wheeling in Canada is an invite. Let's show a lil respect to our friends up there:awesomework:

And yes I have trailer insurance

And yes I brought way too many beers across the border:redneck:

That's all I'm gonna put in on this. 99.9% won't ever wheel there anyways.:beer:

I also realize that this IS a decent topic to discuss. And it's interesting to see the differences between the borders...so continue on. I'll keep reading:beer:

Binder · Mar 24, 2010

Some food for thought on this topic......This is all good information to know first of all. Also know that when you leave the USA you no longer have USA constitutional rights. Meaning we all take for granted here that we can get a lawyer and make the government follow the rules if need be. Do we have that right when in Canada? We all know LEOs make up rules all of the time. Sometimes intentional and sometimes they just don't know but my point is if this happens in Canada can you do anything about it? If your rig gets inpounded even though you believe you're following the rules and they say you can't have it back what are you going to do?
I'm not saying these things will happen but if we're trying to be prepared by knowing the rules we should take it one step further and have a plan for "what if ?". When you're in a foreign country in jail is probably the wrong time to think about it.
See you all there!:awesomework: