Snap ON?

[CHOP SHOP]

That **** has to be the biggest rippoff of all time.

At one time the name snapon meant quality and service.

Now it just means finance anyone on over priced ****. The **** is so overpriced that even if they get burned on over 50% of payments they still make out like a bandit.


What the **** makes a tool box cost as much as some GARAGES, built on site?


Seriously I have snap on **** here with "made in china" stickers.



Compare the **** to other COMMERCIAL, not consumer level stuff and you start to see the "name pricing" not priced to the quality level.


Id take a Stanley Vidmar box anyday if I have to pay the bill. Hell I could have the local trophy shop carve me a solid gold name plaque and still be ahead of the game.



I dont even think the richy ****s pay that much for custom built and brass clad filing cabinets.

What a waste of loot.

 

[ChopTop84]

The only reason I can figure is because you have to spend a certain percentage of your income on tools in order to write it off as work related expenses. Buying the box at a couple thousand bucks gets you over that limit and then everything else you can start writing off on taxes for that year. But thats the ONLY reason I can come up with, and Im not sure its even accurate.

I still have my craftsman box I got as my 16th Bday present, was a couple hundred bucks TOPS, and while its seen better days, its still functional, I still use it, and I dont feel bad if I scratch it!

 

[crash2]

Then don't buy it...

Let me guess the next ***** will be about cheap china made tampons....

 

[CHOP SHOP]

Then don't buy it...

Let me guess the next ***** will be about cheap china made tampons....

Proud of those shiny paperweights, huh?

I dont buy it. I know you like them, thats fine.

But cmon Mike, you have got to noticed the brand getting mo pricey and less quality? Even just a little?




Cmon some of those boxes cost as much as an untra4 roller car shell. Thats alot of parts and fab involved in those cars.

What goes into stamping out drawers like LIC plates?

 

[skinny_pedal]

Be as it may Brad. Sometimes the snap on truck is the only place to get a specialty tool for said job

 

[Birdbrain]

When it comes to tools... I go craftsman, just like my father and grandfather. Yeah the quality isnt like what it used to be. But its better than most others out there and still fairly inexpensive. Plus, lifetime warranty. Most of their major hand tools are still made in the USA as well.

As far as toolboxes go. Look up Montezuma... Made in KS, and the quaility is ****ing awesome. I got one for myself for and keep it at work... Really nice rubber wheels that roll great. Drawers slide easily and smoothly. They lock nicely and the larger drawers have 2 sets of tracks. I can try and get some pics later this week of it.

 

[WHITE TRASH1]

Snap on does make some stuff that no one else does and their diagnostic equipment is good stuff. The fine spline ratchets are pretty sweet but for standard stuff like sockets, end wrenches etc. they are recockulously over priced for the quality they are pedaling.

Their tool boxes are tough but as stated shop around and you'll find better for half the cost or thereabouts.

I have a black tool cart identical to one from blue point that snap on sells for for $650. I paid $100 with a coupon from harbor freight. I must say its a pimp cart that's probably built in the same factory. :haha:

 

[ChopTop84]

I found out the hard way that the only thing Snap On did to my plasma cutter was paint their name on it. They wont even admit to it being theirs when I tried to order parts from them. Finally found some place that sells chinese plasma cutters and they identified it on the first email, and had parts to me the next day.

 

[TrikeKid]

Snap On boxes are flat out better IMO, then again one of my boxes at work came off the SO truck (I got it for less than half of MSRP since it was a repo) and there isn't a better ratchet on the market than a Dual 80. The Matco is close, but I've used both back to back and I'll keep my 80.

Other than that, don't have much use for their **** unless I find it cheap used and sometimes my snappy dealer comes up with good trade-in stuff. Cornwell gets my money 90% of the time when I need a tool.

You pay for convenience and a warranty when you buy tools off the truck. ****, my Cornwell dealer warranties the cheap RC car I bought off him.

 

[crash2]

My large snap on box and my medium are both excellent units.

Some things are identical to others but you have to be smart enough to compare the big guys tools.

 

[JOOP]

Is there anything Brad doesn't ***** about?
So much negativity from this guy :rolleyes:

 

[Lucky Jeff]

Is there anything Brad doesn't ***** about?
So much negativity from this guy :rolleyes:

:haha:
:awesomework:

 

[crash2]

Somebody who claims to live on penies should be shopping at Harbor freight and not even looking at snap on....

Just sayin...

 

[Dain Bramage]

Is there anything Brad doesn't ***** about?
So much negativity from this guy :rolleyes:

X2:awesomework:

 

[Avanteone]

Pros use pro tools. If you're doing it for fun, you don't need Snap-On, to those people who depend on their tools for a living, the name brands are proven to do what they're supposed to.

 

[JOOP]

Pros use pro tools. If you're doing it for fun, you don't need Snap-On, to those people who depend on their tools for a living, the name brands are proven to do what they're supposed to.

:awesomework:

 

[crash2]

pros use pro tools. If you're doing it for fun, you don't need snap-on, to those people who depend on their tools for a living, the name brands are proven to do what they're supposed to.

absofawkinglutely :d

 

[monstaru]

I like buying Old school Snap-on from pawn shops.
I have a super nice(well, at least to me:fawkdancesmiley:) 1/2" Torque wrench that i got in trade for doing an engine swap for a friend.
He nbougth from Double-Eagle pawn in Spokane.For like 75 bucks.It is a 300 torque wrench from the early nineties I think....

I have a bunch of sockets(impact and regular) that I got from pawn shops.
No wrenches.I know several people that have spent the dough to outfit themselves "properly"...

I have wrenched on Crafstman more than most of them.Let them think all they want.
I have learned how to treat things properly because I could not rely on"professional" grade.

Fucck keepin up with the "Snap-Ons", they may have invented the ratchet and sockets, but I get plenty done without spending a fortune.

Many say, "Well, You don;t rely on them professionally."

I say it comes down to convenience for the professional.He cannot keep a couple of each tool in his box because of space constraints.Therefore He or She takes the easy expensive route to get a produc that can be replaced by delivery if they break something.:fawkdancesmiley:

cheers

 

[Dain Bramage]

Pros use pro tools. If you're doing it for fun, you don't need Snap-On, to those people who depend on their tools for a living, the name brands are proven to do what they're supposed to.

Also, this. :cool:

 

[WHITE TRASH1]

Pros use pro tools. If you're doing it for fun, you don't need Snap-On, to those people who depend on their tools for a living, the name brands are proven to do what they're supposed to, cost way more money but the truck comes by once a week to stroke your ego so the rape doesn't sting so bad.

Fixed. :flipoff:


There are some tools that come off the tool truck that are worth every penny but face it, most don't. If I want Chinese made crap I'll go to a Cummins tool sale and get stuff harbor freight won't even sell. Go warranty a snap on hand tool and tell me how sweet it is to not see a USA stamp in it because they have shifted production to China. Now tell me how much better that tool is than husky, proto, craftsman etc. :kiss:

 

[zukkev]

There are differences in the sockets, even from the big 3 (or 4 if you count cornwell--I don't for many different reasons)---Almost all of my stuff is Snap-on, wrenches included-with some Matco, and Mac; And an assload of miscellaneous sockets/wrenches good for 'modding' (craftsman, SK, chinese, yadayada)...
Go ahead and spend half the cost for a set of 1/4 drive wobbly sockets such as SK, or Cobalt, or Crapsman and see how far they get you...I did, as I was kinda in the same boat having a hard time justifying the cost of them...And guess what?? The SK's I bought? I broke 3 10mm's, a 12mm, and a 13mm all within a year of buying---sure they're warrantied, but who wants to go thru that bs...Took them home and brought back my Snappy's and filled the rail with the essentials I needed to do certain jobs and have never looked back (Have had and used snapon's for many yrs with only one 10mm failure)... 3/8 drive is the same deal...I currently have 3 broken SK 3/8 Dr wobbly impact sockets (13mm, 16mm, and 17mm) I have no where to get replaced. They WILL be replaced by Snappy's when I get some extra coin...The rare occasion that my sockets break is far worth the extra coin paid for reliability in an often over abused environment, and I can't recall a time a wrench has broke on me...
As for tool boxes---I did my research when I bought mine and found that hands down the Matco Premium boxes were far superior in construction compared to any of the others...They also have a 'value' line, and in an effort to save some coin my neighbor bought one--HE HATES IT; Wishes like hell all his tools would fit in his old Matco (which he still has); Mac and Snappy also have their value lines (Tech series, and Blue Point); But IMHO, it all boils down to how a box is treated---even if you have a value line, you can make them last if you treat them right...How many of you out there in the field started out in a 40 yr old handmedown Craftman box?? I did...and worked my way up to what I have now. It is the last box I'll ever buy...

 

[zukkev]

Snap-on branded hand tools are 100% made in the USA; any of their other lines which are not 100% made in USA are branded Blue Point or Souix, or whatever...

 

[Byke]

When I buy off the Snap On truck, or off of any tool truck for that matter, I buy for "good to high" quality but mostly for customer service and warranty. When the customer service goes downhill or I have a hard time with warranty then I quit buying from that salesman, period. My home tool boxes (craftsman) are full of every brand you can think of but my work box (Mac) has Snap On, Mac and Matco only.

 

[crash2]

Snap-on branded hand tools are 100% made in the USA; any of their other lines which are not 100% made in USA are branded Blue Point or Souix, or whatever...

Exactly.. Some of there blue point stuff is still USA made but certainly there lower grade tools....

 

[CHOP SHOP]

I have lots of snap on tools.

My snapon 230 amp wire feed sits in the corner cuz I replaced it with a MUCH better Miller after getting ass****ed for years on service parts and replacements.

My largest tool box is an OLD snapon I bought here from Mark. It still works as good as it did when new. Probably better quality than the new ones.

I have lots of snapon ratchets. I like those and the higher quality easco and stanley ones too. Very fine teeth.

And Kev, all my 1/4 sockets are snapon. I bought them years ago for $2 a POUND years ago at Boieng surplus.

I will not pay for thier wrenches. Not worth it.

I have a ton of SK hand tools. Tons of Proto, tons of Allen, tons of Wright, and many other USA made hand tools.

Ill take a Milwaukie power tool ANY DAY over a snapon. My $300 snapon grinder didnt even last a year. Yet my used makita has been going on 6 years.


Other than ratchets and specialty tools, I have no use for snapon unless its used and CHEAP.

 

[CHOP SHOP]

I did just get a Blue Point body hammer. None nicer or better balanced.

One of the few tools they make thats better than another brand. :awesomework:

 

[crash2]

Again you have to pick/choose the quality.

Any seasoned tech who has dealt with snap on for years will tell you never buy any of there electric tools---much better products out there..

My 250 snap on welder works great and has for over 10 years granted its not made by them...

 

[CHOP SHOP]

My 250 snap on welder works great and has for over 10 years granted its not made by them...

Yep, mine is from an east coast company and consumables are NOWHERE on this side of the country.

I had a brass slug machined up that plugs in where the whip attaches and is MALE snapon, and FEMALE Tregaskiss input.

So it only cost me aboyut $400 to make it accept miller/tregaskiss consumables/whip parts.

 

[CHOP SHOP]

The SK's I bought? I broke 3 10mm's, a 12mm, and a 13mm all within a year of buyingI currently have 3 broken SK 3/8 Dr wobbly impact sockets (13mm, 16mm, and 17mm) I have no where to get replaced. .

I got tired of having a drawer full of split sockets that I ALWAYS forget to take to town and warranty. Every brand ya can think of.

I finnaly just gave up and ran a bead down each one. Presto no cracko. Not one of the welded sockets have broke again!

One inch of mig weld is so much cheaper than driving to town, buying lunch and looking for tool dealers. :awesomework:

 

[crash2]

Yep, mine is from an east coast company and consumables are NOWHERE on this side of the country.

I had a brass slug machined up that plugs in where the whip attaches and is MALE snapon, and FEMALE Tregaskiss input.

So it only cost me aboyut $400 to make it accept miller/tregaskiss consumables/whip parts.

Ya from what I can tell the basic consumables are proprietary. Thats ok I just give my guy the part numbers and he orders the goods. Cost is a tad more but what I save in time having to go to the big city saves me overall.