4:38 in front w/4:30 gears in rear will this work off road?

redline · Oct 30, 2010

I need to know if I can Run My gear ratio this far off? i got dana 44 with disk thinking of putting it in My 4runner 4;38f to 4;30r

Binder · Oct 30, 2010

Yes it's fine.

!ton327 · Oct 30, 2010

it should be fine ran my yota with 4.37? in the front and 4.10 in the rear for a year and didn't even know it untill i put 5.29s in

boardbysled · Oct 30, 2010

Yes, it will be fine, I run 4.56's in my front 44 and 4.62's in my rear H233B.

London Gentleman · Oct 30, 2010

Mine is 4.38 fronts and 4.3 rears, on a hard surface it bucks pretty bad. Dont recommend that for an extended period of time but im sure wheeling you would be good.

nowires · Oct 30, 2010

didn't cornbinder run 4.10 in the front and 4.11 in the rear

zukkev · Oct 30, 2010

The 4:10/4:11 thing is pretty common on domestic axles...

Binder · Oct 30, 2010

It's usually a function of having a different axle front and rear. 60 rear and 44 front would be 4.09 in the 44 with 45 teeth on the ring gear and 11 on the pinion gear. The 60 would be 4.10 with 41 teeth and 10 teeth.
Numerically they're not exactly the same but in reality they match...

TRG4runner · Oct 30, 2010

I'm just wondering, why is it that you are swapping a d44 for a Toyota rear?

redline · Nov 1, 2010

TRG4runner said:
I'm just wondering, why is it that you are swapping a d44 for a Toyota rear?

I got a d44 out of a rodeo with disk and is 60" wms to wms, and was thinking of a waggy 44 up front same wms to wms. i want to do something as i don`t like the leakey front end and the cost for toyota stuff is rediculas My toyota is built on a budget and i want to be able to continue wheelingon my lil to no budget. any input?

TRG4runner · Nov 1, 2010

redline said:
I got a d44 out of a rodeo with disk and is 60" wms to wms, and was thinking of a waggy 44 up front same wms to wms. i want to do something as i don`t like the leakey front end and the cost for toyota stuff is rediculas My toyota is built on a budget and i want to be able to continue wheelingon my lil to no budget. any input?

Toyota rears are super strong. I wasn't criticizing, just curious. If that's what you got and it works for you then hammer down!:011:

Little Red Zuk · Nov 4, 2010

Off road will be fine, on road might have a little binding if you're on dry pavement in 4wd.

Little Red Zuk · Nov 4, 2010

Binder said:
It's usually a function of having a different axle front and rear. 60 rear and 44 front would be 4.09 in the 44 with 45 teeth on the ring gear and 11 on the pinion gear. The 60 would be 4.10 with 41 teeth and 10 teeth.
Numerically they're not exactly the same but in reality they match...

Sorta. It also has to do with actual gear design and tooth count that can vary even on the same axle. Gets into some ring & pinion voodoo that one of our engineers can explain in length. Since shiney things distract me, I couldn't tell you the whole explanation.:redneck:

Binder · Nov 4, 2010

Little Red Zuk said:
It also has to do with actual gear design and tooth count that can vary even on the same axle.

I don't buy that. If the tooth count is the same then the gear ratio is the same. I would like to hear what one of those engineers has to say about it though.:beer:

Little Red Zuk · Nov 4, 2010

Binder said:
I don't buy that. If the tooth count is the same then the gear ratio is the same. I would like to hear what one of those engineers has to say about it though.:beer:

I might have misspoke: You will have different tooth counts in the same axle and same ratio depending on the tooth design.

Such as a Dana 44 4.09 is different from a Dana 44 4.11 because of different tooth counts and reasons in design, but for you and I they're the same for all intents and purposes.

I might have misread your comment at the same time.

lilzuki · Dec 11, 2010

you think toy stuff is pricey? just go fine parts for that rodeo 44 special gears lockers had one and got rid of it

whatthe? · Dec 11, 2010

Run what you can afford.

Pat · Dec 11, 2010

Getting rid of a toyota axle for a dana 44 seems like a step in the wrong direction IMO. And I have dana 44's. :;

WHITE TRASH1 · Dec 11, 2010

lilzuki said:
you think toy stuff is pricey? just go fine parts for that rodeo 44 special gears lockers had one and got rid of it

WTF? Low ratio gears and a high ratio carrier. Yes the STOCK setup is special but swapping in aftermarket is just like any other 44.

As for swapping yota axles for 44's that is just retarded. You think yota stuff is expensive start pricing all the blingtanium it'll take to make that 44 almost as stong as a yota axles with longfields...