90's throw back....Manche build

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Is there a cover or something for the fuse block? I feel like fuses aimed upwards and not covered + mud/rain/dew= PITA. I'm sure you have some kind of crazy elaborate, 19 piece, water shield for it though.
 
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The Luke said:
Is there a cover or something for the fuse block? I feel like fuses aimed upwards and not covered + mud/rain/dew= PITA. I'm sure you have some kind of crazy elaborate, 19 piece, water shield for it though.
Yep, the windshield, and doors
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mcutler said:
Yep, the windshield, and doors
;)

Yea, I'm definitely not used to people installing windshields around here.... That's too logical. :****:
 
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The Luke said:
Yea, I'm definitely not used to people installing windshields around here.... That's too logical. :****:
Right on! I'm a sucker for ease of access for trouble shooting wiring issues. I have always kept fuses exposed for that reason.

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fabricator1 said:
Looking good! With you, I was expecting a bead rolled around every gauge
Shouldn't of said that. Now he is going to have to make a new cluster. laughing1
Seriously though Matt, sic work as usual. drool
 
Appreciate all the kind words and support guys...

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Let the fun begin...

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Are you soldering and heat shrinking or just using heat shrink butt connectors? Seems like a fella with your patience is going to wire for the long term. I'd have to do something I haven't done in 13 years and burn one to have that kind of concentration. :smoke: :****: Bravo, sir. Bravo.
 
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5BrothersFabrication said:
Are you soldering and heat shrinking or just using heat shrink butt connectors? Seems like a fella with your patience is going to wire for the long term. I'd have to do something I haven't done in 13 years and burn one to have that kind of concentration. :smoke: :****: Bravo, sir. Bravo.
They're will likely be a little of both. I have a really good friend who always assists with the wiring; he has 20 years of automotive and audio custom wiring experience. He is a solder- heat shrink kinda dude. Im a little lax with solder, but I love all the new butts and terminals that crimp/solder/ heat shrink, be it they cost $1 a piece. My strength is wiring management. I'll have a few pics later today.

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Good progress was made yesterday.

Plumbing
-steering 90%, two lines left for cooler/ reservoir; stainless hardline, hydraulic hose
- brakes done; ni/cu hardline and flex
-water pump heater ports tapped for -AN fittings


Wiring
- chassis back half wired for rear lights
- taillight panel wired
- header panel cut down and wired
- gauge pod pre wired, ready for cannon/weatherpack plug



I thoroughly enjoy the entire build process and (for the last 10 years or so) primarily work alone for the entirety of a build. Its really nice to have friends that share a passion to come and pitch in on occasions like these. I think we all had high aspirations to get done yesterday, but what we didn't finish, we made up for with a great day of hanging together and enjoying ourselves.

Huge shout out to Scott @ol'Jeeps for working late with me and then making a 2 hour trek back home. Also to my old pal @jeepin-jason, for being here for wiring, his help is always a stress reliever for me; there are no worries when he's on the job, never second guessed. My pal Chip, who drove 2 hours to just be here for anything we needed, he helped all of us. And last but certainly not least, @Paul, who also drove 2 hours, for his hands in all areas, especially for serving us all with a kick ass lunch and providing us his knack for entertainment and story telling...

And for those that have had concerns about the foot room/driver comfort; ask Scott... he spent about 4 hours in the driver's seat while the truck was suspended 4 feet of the ground on the lift, plumbing stainless steel steering hard lines. While I did the cutting, bending, flaring, he was patiently reclined there, constantly attaching and re-attaching said lines till we had it just perfect!

Thanks my friends!

Btw; Scott and Jason even powered on without me while I was gone for 3 hours attending a wedding of a close family member.... That's dedication, thanks again guys!

Pics up soon.

Matt

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mcutler said:
Burning that midnight oil and ****...


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Hey, can you post a pic of how you did your latches for your tube doors or whatever that little catch is for? I'm making a set for the jeep and am looking for inspiration. It's a very good possibility that you already posted that. But, I think it's lost somewhere in the awesomeness
 
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The Luke said:
Hey, can you post a pic of how you did your latches for your tube doors or whatever that little catch is for? I'm making a set for the jeep and am looking for inspiration. It's a very good possibility that you already posted that. But, I think it's lost somewhere in the awesomeness
I'll get that tonight

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Plumbing, (and the steering is now complete.) Fuel and trans cooler left to do, ran out of -6 unions.

Steering ram lines are same length, flex lines down the links for brakes are the same length, spares already here as well. Spare for ram line I will use for differential vent hose on rear.




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d9marko said:
Swagloc fittings?
37° flare for -AN/JIC. Tube sleeve and nut with couplers or bulkhead couplers. Stainless tubing is 3/8 .035 wall, Ni/Cu line is 3/16.

Benders and flaring tool like these. Flare from Eastwood, with the 37 die set.
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Fuel plumbed, including a stainless vent system.

Radiator and associated cooling lines done; heater ports and steam lines to expansion tank.

And one of my most favorite deliveries, not just because of where they're from, but it signifies that the end is near. Due to the repeat service they hooked me up with some swag and gave me the "rock and roll" clear coat treatment... pure sexiness ... for now - lol.

Btw, the fourth shaft is a universal long slip spare for front and rear.



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... and to top the day of on a bad note...i have a full blown sinus infection...uggh.

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Mo...

Plumbing is done - Yet to tag the mounts to the chassis and final tighten.

Wiring strung out to its general vicinity. It's going to be a breeze with the kwik wire harness and switches. @jeepn-jason is coming back out Sunday... she will fire Sunday evening.

Dash completely wired out of the box and into the chassis harness with a couple weather packs, gps antenna mounted and wired.



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I can't hold my peace anymore. I have pretty well followed this build from the beginning with extreme speculation as I thought it was "just another build" but I am glued to the screen on how great of a build this has become. Matt, your attention to detail is amazing and truly a work of art. You continue to keep me coming back for more and more and it really pisses me off when I go and look at my junk. molaugh Keep up the excellent work and I will continue to drool over this build. Great job. :dblthumb:




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CHASMAN9 said:
I can't hold my peace anymore. I have pretty well followed this build from the beginning with extreme speculation as I thought it was "just another build" but I am glued to the screen on how great of a build this has become. Matt, your attention to detail is amazing and truly a work of art. You continue to keep me coming back for more and more and it really pisses me off when I go and look at my junk. molaugh Keep up the excellent work and I will continue to drool over this build. Great job. :dblthumb:




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Hey thanks Greg! I really appreciate those words. I'm glad folks are enjoying this, because I enjoy doing it and sharing. I'm getting really excited for next week to finally load up and wheel again...2 years is too long.

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Btw Greg, thanks for continuing to maintain this forum in the footsteps of JohnG. He is missed, but he would be grateful for the dignity with which you are doing this forum.

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super clean! End is near...I know thats a good feeling

I thought long and hard about hard lines on my build, but ultimately decided that I would rather have the ease of moving lines for maintenance and adaptability on the run; but ill be damned if it doesnt look clean!
 
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mcutler said:
I'm getting really excited for next week to finally load up and wheel again...2 years is too long.

Be prepared, that jungle wall (that is your avatar pic, right?) looks nothing like it did a few years ago! When will you be getting to Dixie?
 
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whiskeymakin said:
Is there any advantage to running the hard lines?
Copied from my pirate thread

waterhorse;41895649 said:
I'm a little courious about your choice to use hard lines for the steering. Don't get me wrong, they look totally fantastic. I would assume a hard line is less likely to leak compared to a hose. But looking at my hydro-steer and there very few connections that can be completely hard line. (Because of engine or axle movement) So you have to go to hose anyways. (With more joints) Has it been your experience that running less hose outweighs the increase in connections?
much of what is said below.
whitneyj;41895857 said:
There are lots of benefits to using conduit versus hose:

1) longevity
2) heat displacement
3) pegs the bling gauge
4) lighter
5) cleaner routing
6) takes up less space
7) breaks the bling gauge

But I'm curious for the reason he did it :smokin:
definitely my order of reason;
Cleaner routing
Less space
Lighter
Heat displacement
Cheaper if you have the tooling, and you know which fittings you need the first time.

I've used hose in a very similar mount and configuration in the past. It will not make those turns at the column without using short couplers which are a no no for hydro. So you then have more junctions again, with more heat in the hose, less space for other systems, more chafing, more weight. The use of whip lines after a hard line run is a pretty standard affair in equipment hydraulics. I have one spare ram hose that will serve as an axle vent for space saving in the box. Then the other two whip lines between the reservoir/ cooler, cooler/ orbital, are less than 12" of hose with reusable fittings, again saving space- but technically I could hardline to there too, cause every steering accessory is chassis mounted; only flexing between axle and engine.
- this time I'm using it on 3 fluid carriers; fuel, steering, trans; previously only did steering.

Bling is a side affect

Tools I used, 37 degree flare

And pic of my hardline routing in previous buggy, never a leak

You can also see how close my engine and manifolds were to the firewall in the past.


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slravenel said:
super clean! End is near...I know thats a good feeling

I thought long and hard about hard lines on my build, but ultimately decided that I would rather have the ease of moving lines for maintenance and adaptability on the run; but ill be damned if it doesnt look clean!
For future thought, aside from at the orbital, they're quit movable for service once released from retainer clips, without loosening the joints.

Thanks buddy!

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mcutler said:
For future thought, aside from at the orbital, they're quit movable for service once released from retainer clips, without loosening the joints.

Thanks buddy!

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as luck would have it...i have had to remove my orbital lines twice now already laughing1

once on my shakedown run on the trails when I had a leak in a fitting and once in the shop when I was re-routing some stuff to a better spot.

Same reasoning behind my brake lines being soft coming out of the masters...for some reason, lining up those fittings with hard lines after a few times always ended up with ****ty looking out of place lines. So i just ran soft 10" lines out of the masters and problem solved! But I also wanted to make this buggy as easy to work on as I could in places where I could since its so tight everywhere else that half of the buggy has to come apart to do much work in behind the firewall laughing1
 
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slravenel said:
as luck would have it...i have had to remove my orbital lines twice now already laughing1

once on my shakedown run on the trails when I had a leak in a fitting and once in the shop when I was re-routing some stuff to a better spot.

Same reasoning behind my brake lines being soft coming out of the masters...for some reason, lining up those fittings with hard lines after a few times always ended up with ****ty looking out of place lines. So i just ran soft 10" lines out of the masters and problem solved! But I also wanted to make this buggy as easy to work on as I could in places where I could since its so tight everywhere else that half of the buggy has to come apart to do much work in behind the firewall laughing1
I totally understand!

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