Alabama Immigration law

doctordick · Nov 4, 2011

Alabama attorney general tells U.S attorney general Eric Holder to F off. YOU GO, BIG LUTHER :woody:

twostep · Nov 4, 2011

Eric Holder is a JOKE. I hope the Fast & Furious deal sinks him...

GONOVRIT · Nov 4, 2011

This is awesome ;D

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Justice Department sent a letter to the Alabama's attorney general Friday asserting that federal civil rights lawyers have the authority to investigate Alabama schools for discrimination based on immigration status -- and will continue to do so.
State Attorney General Luther Strange had questioned the department's authority to demand extensive records on school enrollment and attendance in the current school year following passage of a state law designed to curb illegal immigration.
The law -- enacted last spring -- includes a mandate for public schools to inquire about the immigration status of students, among other things. A U.S. appeals court granted a Justice Department request for an emergency injunction for that portion of the law, but allowed other controversial sections to be enforced.
Friday's letter from Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Thomas Perez responded directly to a letter Strange sent Wednesday demanding to know the Justice Department's legal basis for its requests of 39 school districts. In response, Perez noted his department had received multiple complaints from Alabama and cited three federal statutes, including the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Perez, the administration's top civil rights official, pointedly asked Strange why he was involving himself in the issue at all.
"It is our understanding that you do not represent the school districts that we have contacted. Please let us know if that understanding is correct so that we may proceed accordingly," Perez said. "As we receive additional information, the Civil Rights Division and other Federal agencies will be evaluating the potential for violation of federal laws in Alabama, including civil rights laws."
Alabama has been told to provide the Justice Department's requested data by November 14.
Alabama officials, however, received a strong show of support Friday on Capitol Hill, where three leading southern senators announced their intention to introduce legislation barring the Obama administration from participating in lawsuits over new immigration laws in Arizona, Alabama, and South Carolina.
The Justice Department has sued all three states, and is considering similar action against Utah, Indiana, and Georgia.
Sens. Jim DeMint, R-South Carolina, Jeff Sessions, R-Alabama, and David Vitter, R-Louisiana, said they would attempt to block funding for the lawsuits.
"We're working to stop these politically driven lawsuits by cutting off the ability for the Obama administration to use taxpayers' money to pay for them," Vitter said.
DeMint called it "absurd" for an administration "which has failed to enforce the nation's immigration laws" to try to stop South Carolina, Alabama, and Arizona "from taking commonsense steps to protect citizens and uphold the law."

Dwalk · Nov 4, 2011

THE UNIONS IS WHAT HAS ****ED THIS COUNTRY, NOT THE AMIGOS!!!!!!!!!OVER PAID CRY BABIES!!!!!!

Elliott · Nov 4, 2011

The amigos are doing a number on us also!I shouldn't have to pay for an illegal to go to school. If their not legal they don't need to be here period **** everybody's FEELINGS and get them the hell out!

doctordick · Nov 4, 2011

DID YOU KNOW the #2 item of Mexico's gross domestic product is money sent from the U.S. by legal and illegal immigrants. If my memory serves me correctly, the number is something like 350 billion dollars. That's a third of a TRILLION dollars being sucked out of the U.S. economy every year. This is part of Obama's ideology of redistribution of wealth, not only between individuals, but between nations. Most of the legal immigrants I've had contact with are good hardworking people, but we simply cannot continue to support the corrupt government of Mexico with taxpayer dollars.

By the way, we send another third of a trillion dollars a year to oil producing countries around the world (who mostly hate us) even though we have enough oil and gas domestically to meet our own needs for one to two hunndred years!! There is no other explanation for Obama's crippling of the American energy industry than his dedication to a worldwide socialist agenda. The Keystone pipeline which would create 20 thousand jobs is a perfect example. It is being help up by unelected bureaucrats to prevent Canadian oil from coming into the U.S.

Right now, Obama is attending the G20 meeting which is trying to establish a worldwide tax on all financial transactions. Obama seems to be in favor of the tax. The end result of such a tax will be more money pouring out of the U.S.

I agree with you about the unions. The case of the new Boeing plant in S.C. is a perfect example. The NLRB is stopping the hiring of around 4000 people in order to protect union jobs in WA. Government protects the unions, they get more members, they contribute more money to Democrats. The level of corruption in this administration is unbelievable.

This is without a doubt the most corrupt administration in history.

BlackYJ · Nov 4, 2011

Not the unions.....its the non tax paying Mexicans and the idiot contractors that hire them.....o and the fact nothing is made here anymore.

B Gillespie · Nov 4, 2011

GONOVRIT said:
This is awesome ;D

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Justice Department sent a letter to the Alabama's attorney general Friday asserting that federal civil rights lawyers have the authority to investigate Alabama schools for discrimination based on immigration status -- and will continue to do so.
State Attorney General Luther Strange had questioned the department's authority to demand extensive records on school enrollment and attendance in the current school year following passage of a state law designed to curb illegal immigration.
The law -- enacted last spring -- includes a mandate for public schools to inquire about the immigration status of students, among other things. A U.S. appeals court granted a Justice Department request for an emergency injunction for that portion of the law, but allowed other controversial sections to be enforced.
Friday's letter from Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Thomas Perez responded directly to a letter Strange sent Wednesday demanding to know the Justice Department's legal basis for its requests of 39 school districts. In response, Perez noted his department had received multiple complaints from Alabama and cited three federal statutes, including the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Perez, the administration's top civil rights official, pointedly asked Strange why he was involving himself in the issue at all.
"It is our understanding that you do not represent the school districts that we have contacted. Please let us know if that understanding is correct so that we may proceed accordingly," Perez said. "As we receive additional information, the Civil Rights Division and other Federal agencies will be evaluating the potential for violation of federal laws in Alabama, including civil rights laws."
Alabama has been told to provide the Justice Department's requested data by November 14.
Alabama officials, however, received a strong show of support Friday on Capitol Hill, where three leading southern senators announced their intention to introduce legislation barring the Obama administration from participating in lawsuits over new immigration laws in Arizona, Alabama, and South Carolina.
The Justice Department has sued all three states, and is considering similar action against Utah, Indiana, and Georgia.
Sens. Jim DeMint, R-South Carolina, Jeff Sessions, R-Alabama, and David Vitter, R-Louisiana, said they would attempt to block funding for the lawsuits.
"We're working to stop these politically driven lawsuits by cutting off the ability for the Obama administration to use taxpayers' money to pay for them," Vitter said.
DeMint called it "absurd" for an administration "which has failed to enforce the nation's immigration laws" to try to stop South Carolina, Alabama, and Arizona "from taking commonsense steps to protect citizens and uphold the law."

The constitutionality crux of these issues will be two fold--facially, does the law discriminate by targeting a specific portion of the population, or does the law allow for a search into any student's nationality; second, in application, is the law enforced uniformly across all portions of the population. Either instance could get this law struck down.

Does the US need to monitor who is recieving benefits, but not paying for them? Of course! However, targeting a specific portion of the population for closer scrutiny is unconstitutional.

How many legal persons should be deprived of their Due Process and Equal Protection rights to justify a limit on expenditures to person illegally residing in the US?

Bronco Buster · Nov 4, 2011

I know I will get flamed for this but oh well. The Illegals are not the only ones that send money home most of the legals do also. As far as supporting them we really aren't the only taxes they don't pay are income taxes. Most of them would qualify for earned income credit and get back more than they pay in anyway. Figure an extra $4500 we would have to pay for all of those none tax paying illegals we have. :****:
That being said I do personally believe that they should get legal but I also think it should be easier to do so. I work with a man that is a naturalized citizen and has been trying to get his wife here legally for 5 years.

twostep · Nov 5, 2011

Bronco Buster said:
I know I will get flamed for this but oh well. The Illegals are not the only ones that send money home most of the legals do also. As far as supporting them we really aren't the only taxes they don't pay are income taxes. Most of them would qualify for earned income credit and get back more than they pay in anyway. Figure an extra $4500 we would have to pay for all of those none tax paying illegals we have. :****:
That being said I do personally believe that they should get legal but I also think it should be easier to do so. I work with a man that is a naturalized citizen and has been trying to get his wife here legally for 5 years.

SO DON'T MAKE THEM LEGAL!!! KICK THEM OUT!! and that tax credit bullshit is just that BULLSHIT. How in the hell is my neighbor that is making minimum wage (because he is too lazy to do any better) affording a 45" plasma, a new car and steaks every night? Welfare... getting back MORE than you pay in on taxes is just another form of WELFARE!!! Anyway, that is another discussion.

Dump the illegals off at the boarder, the whole family, let Mexico worry about the welfare of the children. And that goes for any illegal, not just mexican (you got to watch out for them damn Canadians). If they have anchor babies... well I guess they did what they had to do, so they get a pass, but they are still liable for the naturalization costs, back taxes and any other fee or fine that can be drummed up. I'm tired of people being rewarded for breaking the law.

Dwalk · Nov 5, 2011

I dont think we should worry about the Immigrants right now, That money robbing Bastard in the White House has **** away more money than the Illegals has ever costed the US much less this shithole Alabama. 500 Million dollars to a FAILING company, just so the ****TARDS can file bankruptsy. THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE TAX MONEY YOU GUYS ARE BITCHING ABOUT IS GOING.

And what about these people who claim BULLSHIT on their taxes so they can get more refund that they DO NOT deserve, like farms, 2nd homes etc....... knowing they don't have the ****ing common sense to raise a chicken. These people are no better than the Illegals.

just a reminder, think about how illegal the rag head at your favorite gas station is when you spend your hard earned money, guess where that money is going?

FroggF350 · Nov 5, 2011

In the Gwinett County area and many other locations in Metro Atlanta, like Roswell, have entire school buses loaded with kids from parents that do not contribute to the taxes paying for the transportation, education, or the free lunches they are eating. Im not sure what the percentage but I would almost expect it to be close to 50% of the tax payers are paying for 100% of education.
What would fix it??? Who knows, but I think if we all payed higher sales tax and NO income tax it would make a big difference. The contractors and private business owners that make $250,000 and claim $30,000 would have to pay like the rest of us, along with the "under the table" cash payed workers.

Fire Freak · Nov 5, 2011

o no the government pays the rag head to come here and open a business :****: all i have to say is get legal or :gtfo:

B.DRAKE · Nov 5, 2011

BlackYJ said:
Not the unions.....its the non tax paying Mexicans and the idiot contractors that hire them.....o and the fact nothing is made here anymore.

Bingo!!!

doctordick · Nov 5, 2011

I see a lot of different opinions popping up here, and that's a good thing. I think the one thing we can probably all agree on is that at the bottom of all the problems we have our elected officials are ultimately responsible. By extension, that makes us all responsible since we elected them. If you don't vote or make your decision only because someone has a D or an R after their name, then you're not doing your constitutional duty. I believe that the answer is less government, not more.

wontwork · Nov 5, 2011

Dwalk said:
I dont think we should worry about the Immigrants right now, That money robbing Bastard in the White House has **** away more money than the Illegals has ever costed the US much less this shithole Alabama. 500 Million dollars to a FAILING company, just so the ****TARDS can file bankruptsy. THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE TAX MONEY YOU GUYS ARE BITCHING ABOUT IS GOING.

And what about these people who claim BULLSHIT on their taxes so they can get more refund that they DO NOT deserve, like farms, 2nd homes etc....... knowing they don't have the ****ing common sense to raise a chicken. These people are no better than the Illegals.

just a reminder, think about how illegal the rag head at your favorite gas station is when you spend your hard earned money, guess where that money is going?

I am one of those that claims 2 houses. Not to gain anything but for the simple fact I own 2 houses. I use both yearly and pay taxes yearly on both of them.

Also I know all about the rag heads coming over here and wanting o **** everyone. My family owns a gas station that they lease from us (not our choice, bought the lease from the Americans we had it leased to without us knowing) and it is a mess all the time. They dont give 2 shits about anyone that walks in the store as long as they have a $. What is great is that they get every tax break and get money for opening business in America for 8 years. Well guess what happens after 8 years? They put the business in their wifes, sons, or someone elses name.

I will say that our elected officials have screwed everything up.

Bronco Buster · Nov 5, 2011

I am kinda in the same boat. I deduct farm expenses. It is stuff I use for farming. I also deduct trucking expenses. Anyone who owns or has owed their own business deducts every expense they can. If it is a business expense I deduct it . I keep track of my recipes and claim it at the end of the year. If that is wrong I am sorry but that is the way the system works.
I will stand by my statement that the only taxes that illegals do not pay is income.
The taxes is not my problem it is the fact that we do not know who they are.

Dwalk · Nov 5, 2011

If we dont hire the Illegals and dont trade with these RAGHEADS they will find another place to work and do business period. You got to starve them out

And just a thought, there is as many by percentage of working Americans that dont pay taxes as Illegals. More than you think do pay Fed/ST/SS taxes

Im all for a higher sales tax and NO income tax, at least you would be only taxed once on the money you actually make, and its choice what your taxed on!