Anniversary Bash/Ultra4 Racing/ProRock Bouncer stuffs at Rush, KY

[ridered3]

Anyone going to watch or compete this weekend at Rush during the anniversary bash weekend? Going to have Ultra4 racing and the usual ProRock Bouncer races too.

If I saw correctly @extremetownie is on the list for 4400’s. Anyone else racing, watching, helping?

I’ll be trying to watch from home if they have livestream. I know it’s hard to get coverage out of Rush due to lack of service though.

 

[extremetownie]

Team Robby Bobby will be there.

 

[ridered3]

Team Robby Bobby will be there.

:dblthumb:

 

[TBItoy]

Team Robby Bobby will be there.

How’s the car doing?

 

[extremetownie]

I feels very good. Looking forward to giving it everything i have.

 

[Pock]

Curious to know what the "capacity limit" is on an offroad park.

 

[extremetownie]

Come out to Rush. There are many acres and there is someone on all of them. It is like being at rush hour on the interstate.

 

[ridered3]

Curious to know what the "capacity limit" is on an offroad park.

Not been there before but from what I’ve read, part of their capacity issue is road access to get in/out of the park. Supposedly takes hours to get in on busy Saturday mornings.

 

[ridered3]

Qualifying just started. You have to watch it on YouTube website or in the app.

 

[ridered3]

Some screenshots from @extremetownie and @wizzo (assuming he’s with Cody Hardesty) qualifying runs

 

[ridered3]

UTV’s on course now. All races will be shown on Madram11, MidAmerica Outdoors, and Rock Racing TV’s YouTube channels as well as FaceSpace. You have to use the YouTube website or app to watch.

 

[ridered3]

4400 Unlimited Race:

 

[ridered3]

Knockout Racing:

 

[ridered3]

Madram11’s highlight video from the bouncer Bounty Hill Climbs

 

[ridered3]

@extremetownie race recap

 

[ridered3]

Madram11’s Highlights from Knockout Racing:

 

[wizzo]

Some screenshots from @extremetownie and @wizzo (assuming he’s with Cody Hardesty) qualifying runs

Yes I was with Cody. I'll be with him for the foreseeable future.

We had a great weekend with some minor hickups that cost us.

Qualified 5th out of 20. Even after hitting a small tree and having to back up. I feel like if we had a clean run, we would have been 2 maybe close to 1.

Race was going great. We were running fast and on the edge. Basically where you have to be to run up front. Then we lost brakes on our 4th lap. We had been running in 3rd at that point. We finished 8th after stopping in the pits and then limping the buggy around the course.

Something got a hold of one of the flex lines by the knuckle.

Cody has a single pedal balance bar set up. So when we lost fronts, the bar twists and you have no brakes. I suggested to him from day one of my involvement that the balance bar needed to go. He knows why I've been asking for this change for a while now.

We'll be ready to go again at AOP!!!

 

[Bebop]

Cody has a single pedal balance bar set up. So when we lost fronts, the bar twists and you have no brakes. I suggested to him from day one of my involvement that the balance bar needed to go. He knows why I've been asking for this change for a while now.

Do you suggest a straight bar, no balance or switching to a tandem master ?

 

[ridered3]

Yes I was with Cody. I'll be with him for the foreseeable future.

We had a great weekend with some minor hickups that cost us.

Qualified 5th out of 20. Even after hitting a small tree and having to back up. I feel like if we had a clean run, we would have been 2 maybe close to 1.

Race was going great. We were running fast and on the edge. Basically where you have to be to run up front. Then we lost brakes on our 4th lap. We had been running in 3rd at that point. We finished 8th after stopping in the pits and then limping the buggy around the course.

Something got a hold of one of the flex lines by the knuckle.

Cody has a single pedal balance bar set up. So when we lost fronts, the bar twists and you have no brakes. I suggested to him from day one of my involvement that the balance bar needed to go. He knows why I've been asking for this change for a while now.

We'll be ready to go again at AOP!!!

Thanks for the race recap and wasn’t sure how all the reschedules aligned in terms of who would be where.

I knew y’all were progressing through the field pretty good so sucks to read the brakes took you out of contention for a bit. Will see y’all at AOP though.

 

[wizzo]

Do you suggest a straight bar, no balance or switching to a tandem master ?

He has two masters now. I'd rather have independent pedals BUT if you don't have the room, modify the single pedal so the "balance" bar doesn't balance. Make it a solid rod with no twist. Then, you might notice you loose some breaking but you will still have one end or the other working.

 

[Bebop]

Fair enough.
I'll try to send you a PM on some brake calcs / questions I have, see if I can pick your brain.

Thanks

 

[squeak12]

Front and rear line locks to eliminate a portion of the system if you break a line is my solution beyond protecting the lines at all cost. A simple ball valve will do it. Also doubles as parking brake.

 

[Bebop]

Won't help with a blown master that let's the balance bar swing all the way one way thought.

 

[wizzo]

Front and rear line locks to eliminate a portion of the system if you break a line is my solution beyond protecting the lines at all cost. A simple ball valve will do it. Also doubles as parking brake.

This has been discussed but I feel like a proper pedal & MC set up will do the job. I agree that it would be an additional fail safe.

These east coast endurance races are sprints. You have to qualify well so your not fighting tight trails, minimal passing courses with slower racers. Short mileage laps and you really can't afford to pit or stop if you want to be on the podium.

 

[squeak12]

This has been discussed but I feel like a proper pedal & MC set up will do the job. I agree that it would be an additional fail safe.

These east coast endurance races are sprints. You have to qualify well so your not fighting tight trails, minimal passing courses with slower racers. Short mileage laps and you really can't afford to pit or stop if you want to be on the podium.

Also consider an adjustable bias bar, either a slide lever like old AC controls with locking positions along the stroke combined with a push pull cable type setup. The second option is to have a knob to spin, but it would require quite a bit of gear reduction to get the travel required to move an appreciable amount. It could be electronically controlled with an old drill motor, though.

If you are confident in your front to rear ratio, you could mix master cylinder sizes or calipers to get the bias without using a bar as well.

Endurance racing offroad isn't really endurance racing. It's a 1-2 hour sprint against others where money and lack of care about saving the vehicle generally reign supreme. Someone will get "lucky" and not break if the field is large enough. Occasionally someone will come from the back, but you really have to have a lot of information about the race going on around you to know when to save and when to push. I've had my go behind the steering wheel, beside the driver, and in the pits. It generally turns into something where you either go all in for that single victory or decide that it just isn't worth the time and money involved to compete at the top. I have tried racing for fun, but I'm not sure that is an attainable goal for me. I race to compete, and at some point you have to be honest if you can afford to compete or not.

 

[ridered3]

Vaughn Gittin Jr’s highlight video from Rush: